Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:50:45 +0000
Reply-To: Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Actual Vanagon content!!
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1.9l=digijet injection
2.1l=digifant injection
wont work
Chris DeLong
Fine Tuning
206.427.4777
www.finetuningperformance.com
Seattle, WA USA
>From: Mark Seifert <theburnvictims@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: Mark Seifert <theburnvictims@HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Actual Vanagon content!!
>Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:41:36 -0700
>
>Ok, so I got mixed up on that bit of information. So why is it that a 1.9
>ECU doesnt work with a 2.1? Maybe it would...
>
>>From: "Mike Collum" <collum@verizon.net>
>>To: "Mark Seifert" <theburnvictims@HOTMAIL.COM>
>>Subject: Re: Re: Actual Vanagon content!!
>>Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:34:22 -0400
>>
>>The ECU for the 1.9 L wasserboxer (83 1/2 ~ 85) is different from the
>>aircooled and different from the 2.1 L (86~91) and is mounted in the
>>engine
>>compartment.
>>
>>All 1.9 L ECUs are interchangeable and all 2.1 L ECUs are interchangable.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Mark Seifert" <theburnvictims@HOTMAIL.COM>
>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:18 PM
>>Subject: Re: Actual Vanagon content!!
>>
>>
>> > I did some searching through the archives last night on this subject.
>>There
>> > was some guy who says he's done this, but he didn't elaborate much, so
>>who
>> > knows if he's just blowing smoke. Anyway, it looks like that knock
>>sensor
>>is
>> > the only major difference between the Vanagon and Jetta systems. If you
>> > could somehow trick the jetta computer, using the correct resistance of
>>a
>> > knock sensor that is not sensing any knocks, maybe it would work. There
>>are
>> > some other technical differences as well, so I'm sure it's not that
>>simple.
>> > I did confirm from someone else that the Vanagon ECU's are all the same
>>from
>> > I think 83 on, so you could replace the ECU in your 91 Vanagon with one
>>from
>> > an 86 Vanagon. They're all the same part#, but with different revisions
>>(the
>> > letter at the end) I guess VW just made a "better" version every year.
>>If
>> > anyone else has info on this please share. I'm really curious.
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: "Tom Miller" <tmiller@vcmails.com>
>> > >Reply-To: "Tom Miller" <tmiller@vcmails.com>
>> > >To: "Mark Seifert" <theburnvictims@HOTMAIL.COM>
>> > >Subject: Re: Re: Actual Vanagon content!!
>> > >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:14:53 -0400
>> > >
>> > >I forgot about the knock sensor ingnition on the Jetta. I guess if
>>you
>> > >swap
>> > >the computer you might as well swap in the Jetta 1.8L engine as well!
>> > >TEM
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: "Mark Seifert" <theburnvictims@HOTMAIL.COM>
>> > >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> > >Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 11:42 PM
>> > >Subject: Re: Actual Vanagon content!!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > That's a good idea, because the junkyards have plenty of Jettas,
>>and
>>an
>> > >ECU
>> > > > goes for about 30 bucks. I've thought about this before, but I'm
>>still
>> > >too
>> > > > skeptical to actually try it. It looks like the connector that
>>plugs
>> > >into
>> > > > the ECU is the same, but some of the pins are different. That's why
>>I
>> > >dont
>> > > > think it would work, because although SOME of the controls and
>>sensors
>> > >are
>> > > > the same, they may not go through the same pins on the connector.
>>And,
>> > >some
>> > > > of the sensors may have different resistances, which could send
>>false
>> > > > signals, or some may not even be there at all. For example, I
>>think
>>the
>> > > > jetta has 2 coolant temp sensors. The Jetta ECU would look for that
>> > >second
>> > > > sensor, and not find it, and that would cause problems. That is
>> > >considering
>> > > > the engine would even start, which I doubt it would. If pin #7 is
>>not
>>a
>> > > > ground on the Jetta ECU, then there's your answer. I guess the only
>>way
>> > >to
>> > > > know for sure is to try it. I'm too scared.
>> > > > -Mark
>> > > >
>> > > > >From: tmiller <tmiller@VCMAILS.COM>
>> > > > >Reply-To: tmiller <tmiller@VCMAILS.COM>
>> > > > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> > > > >Subject: Actual Vanagon content!!
>> > > > >Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:10:53 -0400
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Has anyone tried to use a Digifant ECU for the same year VW Golf
>>or
>> > > > >Jetta? I was specifically curious about the use of an 89 1.8L
>>Jetta
>> > >ECU
>> > > > >in an 89 Vanagon. The controls are similar, the sensors are
>>similar,
>> > > > >has anyone tried this?
>> > > > >TEMiller
>> > > >
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