Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:47:01 -0400
Reply-To: Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: 2.1 hose price deal (this upsets me!)
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I am upset by this post for the following reasons:
1. Adam and I (I thought) had a good relationship going. He has asked
for pricing on this kit from me a few times over the last six months and
we have talked via email. Every time he promised that when it came time
to buy these he would get them from me.
2. I am sure that without Van-Again or Bus Depot or Bus Boys coolant
hose chart getting all of the proper hoses for your van from the dealer
would be next to impossible. Even if you have the ETKA it is not easy
to understand and there are variations from year to year. So you used
our info to buy the hoses somewhere else. Not nice.
3. You are telling folks that you got such a great deal on these hoses
from the VW dealer. First of all most VW dealers that you asked for a
discount would tell you to have a nice day. Yours gives you probably
20% discount because you are doing a lot of purchases with them. Mine
gives this to me and also delivers for me because I spent at least a
couple thousand with them a month. But most dealers would not do this
for someone who was not a business or who didn't spend good amounts of
money with them every month. So it wouldn't work for most folks.
4. You got such a good deal. $521 for this set of hoses. If you lied
to the dealer and told them they were for resale and gave them a tax id
number then you didn't pay sales tax. However most people would have to
pay sales tax. That would come to $26.05 in South Carolina (5% sales
tax). So your total from the dealer would be $547.05 if you were
honest. I sell these hoses in a kit for $569 for your 88 Wolfsburg.
You would have the List discount of 5% on this order. So that would
change the price of the kit to $540.55. Shipping from me would be $10.
There is no sales tax since I am in NJ and you are in SC. Your total
from me would be $550.55. So you actually saved (if you were honest)
$6.50!
Wow what a savings! Wasn't it worth going back on your promises for and
using other folks information without paying for it by supporting them
financially? Especially folks who have been there for you in the past.
Go team!
5. Getting Vanagon parts from your local VW dealer in 2 days is not the
norm. I have a great dealer but it can take him from 2 days (the
absolute fastest) to two weeks to get me things that I order. And again
he actually likes me and wants to do business with me (not the norm for
most VW dealers out there). I have these hoses on the shelf and ready
to go at all times. If you needed them I could overnight them if you
were in a bind.
In conclusion I just want to say thanks to those folks out there who
have supported myself and the other list vendors down through the years.
You are the reason why we are still here. If folks want to shave a
couple of dollars off here and there go for it. Just don't expect me to
think it is a great deal when it really isn't.
Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Vanagon Man
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:04 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: 2.1 hose price deal
before anyone sets down the satchel to buy a hose kit, if you have a
good dealer, call him and ask him to be competitive. I have developed a
relationship with my parts dealer at VW, and he is selling me all the
hoses and the AT cooler hose for $521. and no shipping cost, he will
have it in 2 days. If you are ready to buy, pmail me and I will give you
his number, he will do mail order, but you will have to pay freight.
Not too bad in my opinion.
Adam P
Charleston,SC Coburn, WV
81 Westy "The Brick "
70 Single Cab "Whitey"
74 Beetle "Ol Yeller"
73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop)
1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
1976 Transporter (New CA bus)
1974 412 "Goldmember"
Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled)
