Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:57:40 -0700
Reply-To: Jim Kennedy <JK@PROJECTDESIGN.COM>
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From: Jim Kennedy <JK@PROJECTDESIGN.COM>
Subject: Re: Any detailing tips?
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Ditto
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Felder [mailto:felder@KNOLOGY.NET]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 12:28 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Any detailing tips?
Don't be skeptical of Armorall based on this one piece of anecdotal
evidence. There could be much more to that story. Millions of people
have used Armorall and been happy with it.
I have used it for 14 years on my 90 carat, and the interior is
perfect. Plastic, vinyl, rubber, all perfect.
It is not, however, good for leather because it seals the leather and
prevents it from absorbing oils you need to apply. No leather in a
vanagon anyway,
If that's accelerated failure, then I'll take it.
Jim
On Apr 30, 2004, at 11:41 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote:
> So what is the best thing to use in its place?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Wilder [mailto:wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:41 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Any detailing tips?
>
>
> I'm sticking my neck out here because I can't supply a link to my
> information source but I'll quote it as best I can.
> Armorall accelerates the failures of plastics.
> Initial statements regarding this were submitted by a fleet truck
> operator
> that had one employee that maintained the interior of the vehicle he
> drove
> daily with Armorall.
> The balance of the much neglected fleet still had very good plastic
> parts
> after five years of same type service but the Armoralled vehicle had
> shrinkage and cracks in the plastic as well as some gummy surface
> areas.
>
> Stan Wilder
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Runberg" <jrunberg@MAC.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Any detailing tips?
>
>
>> There's a nice long thread in the archives about Armor All. IIRC, it
> mostly brings the oils in your plastic to the surface and doesn't
> really add
> anything back in. Eventually there are no more oils and things begin
> cracking. Go to an hiking/kayaking shop and ask for 303 Protectant
> (www.303products.com/)- this stuff was spec'd by Boeing for maintaining
> plastic surfaces. It adds oils back into the material instead of
> leaching it
> out (also adds UV inhibitors, IIRC). Not cheap, but a it works well
> and a
> little goes a long way.
>>
>> john
>>
>>> I've been trying to learn this too... I do recall a somewhat recent
>>> thread about how Armor-All is detrimental to plastics over time. I
>>> don't remember this being verified, but I haven't used it yet.
>
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