Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:39:08 -0400
Reply-To: Daniel Brideau <dan@HOBBYETC.COM>
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From: Daniel Brideau <dan@HOBBYETC.COM>
Subject: Re: Any detailing tips?
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The issue with Armour-all is the way your plastic and vinyl parts get
"addicted" to it.
If you were to ever stop using it for a "while" you'd certainly see cracks.
Whatever it is that makes the plastic look nice dries out, and while it's
drying, the plastic dries out too.
This is why you can see folks who say "been 'usin it fur years, no problem".
They never stopped using it long enough. (plus, I think a lot of people sell
their cars after 4 or 5 years anyway)
http://www.unofficialbmw.com/all/carcare/all_dont_use_silicone.html
Do some searches for "armour-all ford tsb" and you'll see some other
non-anecdotal evidence.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Felder" <felder@KNOLOGY.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Any detailing tips?
> Don't be skeptical of Armorall based on this one piece of anecdotal
> evidence. There could be much more to that story. Millions of people
> have used Armorall and been happy with it.
>
> I have used it for 14 years on my 90 carat, and the interior is
> perfect. Plastic, vinyl, rubber, all perfect.
>
> It is not, however, good for leather because it seals the leather and
> prevents it from absorbing oils you need to apply. No leather in a
> vanagon anyway,
>
> If that's accelerated failure, then I'll take it.
>
> Jim
>
> On Apr 30, 2004, at 11:41 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote:
>
> > So what is the best thing to use in its place?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stan Wilder [mailto:wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET]
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:41 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Any detailing tips?
> >
> >
> > I'm sticking my neck out here because I can't supply a link to my
> > information source but I'll quote it as best I can.
> > Armorall accelerates the failures of plastics.
> > Initial statements regarding this were submitted by a fleet truck
> > operator
> > that had one employee that maintained the interior of the vehicle he
> > drove
> > daily with Armorall.
> > The balance of the much neglected fleet still had very good plastic
> > parts
> > after five years of same type service but the Armoralled vehicle had
> > shrinkage and cracks in the plastic as well as some gummy surface
> > areas.
> >
> > Stan Wilder
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Runberg" <jrunberg@MAC.COM>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: Any detailing tips?
> >
> >
> >> There's a nice long thread in the archives about Armor All. IIRC, it
> > mostly brings the oils in your plastic to the surface and doesn't
> > really add
> > anything back in. Eventually there are no more oils and things begin
> > cracking. Go to an hiking/kayaking shop and ask for 303 Protectant
> > (www.303products.com/)- this stuff was spec'd by Boeing for maintaining
> > plastic surfaces. It adds oils back into the material instead of
> > leaching it
> > out (also adds UV inhibitors, IIRC). Not cheap, but a it works well
> > and a
> > little goes a long way.
> >>
> >> john
> >>
> >>> I've been trying to learn this too... I do recall a somewhat recent
> >>> thread about how Armor-All is detrimental to plastics over time. I
> >>> don't remember this being verified, but I haven't used it yet.
> >
>
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