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Date:         Thu, 6 May 2004 18:39:04 EDT
Reply-To:     Trvlr2001@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         John Carpenter <Trvlr2001@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Thoughts on the roadhouse.
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Hi All, A few more thoughts, Oh, did I say a few? That reminds me of an old horse I used to have. Smartest damm animal you'd ever meet in your whole damm life. You'd ask him how many oats he wanted, and he'd lift his tail, & say, a-fewwwwww...

To give is very important...

but to me,

It is more important to be ABLE to receive...

"from the unmanifest.... comes the manifest."

this is creation.

Don't just look at the stars, but the space between them... Have you noticed, there is much more space, than material.

Don't just listen to the music, and follow the notes, But also, the space between the notes.

This is where creation comes forth from.

You are the creator,

not anyone else,

Not anything else.

Choose.

"I once was the Walrus, & now, I am John..." JL

In a message dated 5/6/04 4:32:17 AM Mountain Daylight Time, vgonman@MSN.COM writes: Well by now a few have sniped at my take on this.

Ask yourselves this question. How many of you contributing to this great cause have gone out of their way to help a newbie on the list keep there $500 car running with a $2000 motor or a $20 donation? Vans that were rusting into the ground, had head leaks, etc? Wouldn't they be worth or our financial support? They do not have the money for GPS or internet links in their vans, or fancy wheels or High powered engines.............just people trying to get by and keep their car on the road.........NOT joyride around the US. Believe it or not, I have helped people on Sunday afternoon the dealer referred to me to get their vanagons back on the highway. Did I make money? Yes, but also i had given untold bits of advice via pmails and postings over the past several years.

When I decided to upgrade my stereo to MP3 did i ask for handouts? No, I sold my old radio and didn't go out to eat with the family for 2 weeks. I made it just fine.

When my van broke down in Rock Hill 2 weeks ago did i instantly fire up my mobile internet link and ask for money for my new alternator? NO. I walked to advance and bought one and installed it with my own tools that i always bring on road trips. I didn't need to have it towed to a mechanic.

Now granted, it would be cool to joyride around the US. But don't ask for handouts. Sell some of your toys. That's what those of us in the real world have to do when times get tough................draw money out of savings, etc. With all that has been done to this vehicle, I seriously doubt its owner is broke.


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