Date:         Sun, 2 May 2004 02:49:43 EDT
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From:         George Goff <THX0001@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: bus depot exhaust rusting prematurely? / It's Not the Rust,
              It's the Miles
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In a message dated 5/2/04 12:58:29 AM, green536@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<< The stuff that you got from the Bus Depot is OEM quality and will last
just as long as a component that you purchased from the stealership.

Chris DeLong >>

Not necessarily so; OEM is not OE.  In my experience, this statement is
untrue.  I have installed Dansk exhaust systems on both a 1.9 and a 2.1 and neither
could even smell the durability of the VW parts.  Couple that with the
atrocious fit of the aftermarket pipes and they are no bargain at all.  Not only do
the VW pipes last at least twice as long, they do it without the bracket lugs
breaking off and the flanges eroding away to nothing.

Page 33 of Water-Cooled Vanagon, Introductory Service Information
(WSP521-112-00) states, "The manifolds and collector pipe are made from a CAST IRON alloy
which is 3.5 mm thick for good heat resistance and long service life."  I
have wondered if this is a misnomer from translating the German text, or if VW
does make the pipes from some form of malleable iron.  Whatever they use
certainly lasts longer than the Dansk tubing.

About 15 years ago when I needed to renew an exhaust system, I called Gordi
at 4ever4.  He said he only used VW OE exhaust parts.  After I whined about the
cost, I asked him if he had a line on a stainless system.  He said, "Look, a
VW OE exhaust part lasts 75000 - 90000 miles.  What more could you ask for?"
He was right.  And, I think Gordi is in one of those balmier climates . . .
like New Hampshire.

George