Date:         Tue, 18 May 2004 16:34:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Jason Kirk <Gojira@ADELPHIA.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jason Kirk <Gojira@ADELPHIA.NET>
Subject:      Re: jumpseat brackets
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Good God Man! I'm 5'9", 175lbs and have a hell of a time getting in the
driver's seat in a parking lot if I can't swing the door all the open.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:30 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: jumpseat brackets

Good grief. I go 385 all by myself. Add a pregnant wife, 2 kids, all
their
junk, all our junk, tools, stroller, 2 dogs and a partridge in a pear
tree... no wonder the thing is slow.

I was thinking about the fit while I was driving today; it's one of the
reasons I agreed to buy the thing and fix it (the engine was trashed,
sorta)- the visor in the upright position is just above my eyebrows.
Wife
says I have about 3" of headroom. The seat back stops just about the
bottom
of my shoulder blades, but other than that, it's fairly comfortable.
Nice
not to have to shoehorn m'self in.

Robert
'87 GL

----- Original Message -----
From: "jeff g" <jeffg@MIKOEXOTICWEAR.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: jumpseat brackets


> point well taken..
>
> between my wife and 3 kids and 2 dogs..thats 5 people and 2 dogs we
weigh
a
> total of 606#...so...i need that jump seat in order to make sure all
of
the
> kids have seat belts...but i understand your point TJ and appreciate
all
of
> that info that you posted....
>
> jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of TJ Hannink
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:24 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: jumpseat brackets
>
>
> Before installing that jumpseat in your Westy, do some calculations.
The
GL
> Camper with its built-in appliances and tanks has less payload than a
> passenger type Vanagon even though they share the same chassis and
GVWR.
In
> order to offset the extra weight of the appliances, VW limited the
amount
of
> seating available by design.
>
> So do some weighing of your vehicle and see what happens when you add
an
> additional seat, a passenger and their luggage to your vehicle. VW had
to
> use generic numbers for their calculations since they have no control
of
who
> will actually be in the vehicle. A typical figure used to calculate
payload
> is 200 lbs per passenger, not including the weight of the seat itself.
Do
> you have that much additional payload capacity available when you are
using
> your camper as a travel vehicle/camper?
>
> How you choose to modify your Vanagon is up to you, but take the time
to
> calculate the affects of your modifications. What works for one
> listmember/Vanagon owner might not work for your particular situation.
Your
> payload is your family and friends, how much are they worth?
>
> Good luck,
>
>
>
>
> TJ Hannink
> Goldibox - 1987 Vanagon Camper, Wolfsburg Edition
> 1981 Bluebird Wanderlodge, FC-33
> Winter Park, Florida
> http://home.earthlink.net/~tjhannink/
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