Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:46:03 -0400
Reply-To: Tim Demarest <tim.demarest@POBOX.COM>
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From: Tim Demarest <tim.demarest@POBOX.COM>
Subject: Re: FW: Subaru Engines (NVC)
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I noticed an interesting slant to the article... apparently Subaru
is the "bad guy" for *exploiting* the SUV loophole, not the US government
for leaving it open...
Still reading between the lines, and coloring outside them,
Tim
At 02:51 PM 5/27/2004 -0400, Myers, Thomas A wrote:
>Apparently subaru sells "trucks" [ not sedans or wagons ] now....
>
>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4191589/
>
>
>Tom
>
> ----------
> From: Vanagon Mailing List on behalf of Andrew Fox
> Reply To: Andrew Fox
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:07 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Subaru Engines (NVC)
>
> Dont you people care about gas mileage? The new subaru's are only
>getting
> in the low to mid 20's, barley better than the small SUVs? I have a
>92
> legacy wagon AWD, gets over 30 mpg, gutless yet, but cheap to drive
>and
> bulletproof. I for one am very disappointed that subaru has gone
>from
> producing fuel efficent cars for the masses to satisfying the needs
>of the
> few with the deep pockets, its just like honda and vw, noone wants
>to make
> a cheap car these days, honda no longer sells a small fuel efficent
> hatchback, their only hatchback is an overpriced suped up stupid
>looking
> model for stupid kids. VW is selling overpriced made in mexico
>yuppy
> cars, and overpriced SUVs and sportcars for those with more money
>than
> brains. The practical car market is going to the koreans (kia's and
> hyndai's).
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On Thu, 27 May 2004, Mike Blotz wrote:
>
> > the choices are actually 2.2, 2.5 phase 1 and 2 (DOHC or
>SOHC--better),
> > 3.3 SVX, 2.0 WRX and the newer 2.5 turbo. I am doing the 2.2 swap
>from a
> > 90 legacy on my syncro as we speak--almost done. they are bullit
>proof
> > engines--as well as the turbo 2.0 WRX.
> >
> > main reason subaru made the 2.0 turbo WRX is because it was the
>consumer
> > version of there rally WRX impreza. rally cars are limited to
>2.0L. that
> > is the reason. now they have a consumer version of there STI WRX
>which
> > is a 2.5 turbo. and same motor detuned in the forester and coming
>out
> > next week--the new legacy line (ive been waiting a year for that)
>yes--i
> > drive subarus as a daily driver here in CO (legacy 2.5GT wagen).
>even
> > with my 2.2 90 legacy motor i am 35 hp ahead (130hp) and--I forget
>the
> > number exactly--but close to 25 more ft lbs of torque. there is a
>guy
> > local to me doing a WRX conversion as well--cant wait to see it. I
>know
> > he only has something like 28K ORIGINAL miles on his syncro and
> > tranny--which would probably be the weak link with that much HP
>and
> > torque.
> >
> > ps--I drove the WRX when they unloaded it from the truck here in
> > CO--demo car--they didnt care how it was driven. very far from
>gutless
> > here at elevation 9hich doesnt effect turbos much anyway)--holy
>cow--mr
> > lawman/insuranceman wouldnt let me have one
> >
> > mike
> >
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