Date:         Wed, 26 May 2004 00:20:55 EDT
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From:         Jeff Oxroad <Oxroad@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: [vanagon] Factory sticker estimaged mileage?
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In a message dated 5/25/2004 7:11:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
wil@charmfx.com writes:


> Anyone know of a source to find the estimated mpg city/highway that
> was listed on the sticker in the dealership on buses?
>
> Specifically, I'm interested in my '80 Vanagon, 2.0L, fi w/air (no
> removed), non-California.
>
>

The brochure of that year should have the estimated mileage if you can find
one. search google for vintage brochure sales. I don't have a brochure from
that year.

I have an 83.5 brochure for the watercooled gasoline engine Vanagon which
show the estimated gas mileage with a manual transmission as 19 MPG city and--
ARE YOU SITTING-- 27 MPG for the highway. Now I'll give VWOA that the national
speed limit in 83 was 55MPH, but even then c'mon 19 MPG CITY! "Use estimated
mpg for comparison to other cars. Your actual mileage may vary with speed,
weather and trip length. Highway Mileage will probably be less."  It should say
"Your actual mileage will vary if you live anywhere other than the fantasy
world!" And outside the fantasy world I would say it definately will vary unless you
drive down hill both ways. (Automatic trans. 19 City, 24 Highway)

I don't want to think about what I get in city driving my 83.5 Westfalia with
gasoline here at $2.50 a gallon, but highway I seem to remember the best I've
ever gotten was 21 MPG and that was in the flats of Kansas. I was pretty
proud at that. And for what the Westfalia provides the mpg is pretty good--for an
RV. I also guess the mileage in the brochure was for a non-Westfalia, although
it doesn't break it down that way.

Other VW  MPG from corresponding brochures I have:

1983.5 Vanagon/Camper watercooled 4sp   19 City  27 Highway
1983.5 Vanagon/Camper watercooled auto   19 City   24 Highway

1988 Vanagon/Camper w 4 speed       16 City   18 Highway
1988 Vanagon/ Camper w/automatic    14 City   16 Highway

1989 Vanagon/Camper/Carat 4sp           18 City  19 Highway
1989 Vanagon/Camper/Carat Auto          17 City  18 Highway
1989 Vanagon/ Camper Syncro models    16 City  16 Highway

1993 Eurovan   Manual            17 City  21 Highway
1993 Eurovan  Auto                17 City   19 Highway

1998 South African Microbus    No MPG or KPG noted in brochure

1971 Karman Ghia      27MPG  (before MPG info. was required so no
city/highway)

1971 Station Wagon (Bus)  "gives you more mileage to the gallon" (no actual
noted)

1971 Squareback/Fastback  26 MPG  (no breakdown of city/highway)

1971 411 (3DR+4DR)      22 MPG (no breakdown of city/highway)

1993 Fox 4DR         25 City/ 33 Highway