Date:         Wed, 26 May 2004 10:25:54 -0700
Reply-To:     gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: header replacement 025251172r for 87 vanagon
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Ron and sales,
   My eyes must be playing tricks again as I thought I
read $179 but it is a bargain @ $109.95.   So how much
is shipping, slow ground shipping? and do you know any
tricks to make the application less painfull.   I
can't imagine this is going to slide right into place.
  I have never had that kind of luck on any exhaust
system.   I hate working on exhaust systems.
thanks for the heads up on the actual part being
danish, the danish muffler works great,    gary
--- The Bus Depot <vanagon@busdepot.com> wrote:
> > I will be needing to replace my rear header soon.
> >  The part is a pricey beast even at busdepot.
> > Thepartsbin seems like a better deal when you
> factor
> > free shipping costs.   Busdepot suggests that
> > 025251172r has been replaced with the letter P.
> Has
> > anyone any less expensive aftermarket products
> that
> > will fit but not pinch the pocket.
>
>
> Actually you misread my site. The P has been
> superceded to an R, not the
> other way around.  So you indeed need an 025251172R.
>  I sell it for
> $104.45 with your listmember discount -  43% off of
> thepartsbin's price
> of $184.80.  So their "free shipping" is actually
> costing you a whopping
> $80.00. I sure hope they're hand delivering it for
> that price. :-)
>
> As for manufacturers, there are two -
> Leistritz/Germany and
> Jopex/Denmark (also known as JP or Dansk). The VW
> part was made by
> Leistritz at one time but I couldn't say if this is
> still the case.  VW
> also sources some exhaust from Jopex, so it could be
> either. In fact I
> haven't seen any new Leistritz ones in a long time,
> so I don't even know
> if they're making them anymore. None of my suppliers
> carry them anymore.
>
>
> This leaves Jopex. Jopex makes the part in a regular
> mild steel version
> and a stainless steel version. The above is the
> regular one. Most people
> don't sell the stainless one at all (as Jopex does
> not export it to the
> U.S.) but we import it ourselves. It's $171 (part #
> 025251172RS).  I
> have compared the Jopex and Leistrtitz pipes side by
> side and the fit is
> exactly the same. (This doesn't mean that it will
> necessarily be easy to
> fit. It can be a challenge fitting a new pipe to an
> old exhaust system
> that has been bent and tweaked over the years, and
> tends to "spring
> apart" as soon as you unbolt it.)
> Quality/reliability on the Jopex has
> also been good.  In fact I have them on my own '89
> Westy. (When they
> fail, it's often due to stress cracking, just as
> with the original ones;
> inherent in the design of the exhaust system, I
> suspect.)
>
> So the bottom line is, no matter where you buy it,
> you're almost certain
> to receive a Jopex pipe, since they are the primary
> (if not only)
> supplier of this part worldwide.
>
> As for how soon you should replace it, yes it will
> eventually crack more
> and get loud. Maybe not immediately, but needless to
> say you're on
> borrowed time. If the pipe starts to leak badly it
> can cause a bad
> running condition due to the fact that your oxygen
> sensor (which is
> "downstream" of it) will not be getting a correct
> reading (thus throwing
> off your fuel injection system).
>
> - Ron Salmon
>   The Bus Depot, Inc.
>   www.busdepot.com
>   (215)  234-VWVW
>
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