Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 22:44:52 -0500
Reply-To: John Rodgers <jh_rodgers@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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From: John Rodgers <jh_rodgers@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject: Re: Coolant - Have I screwd up my engine?
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Do not use anti-freeze that has a phosphate in it. The reason is to
avoid corrosion of the aluminum in the newer engines.
I use Texaco Havoline Phosphate Free Biodegradable Orange coolant mixed
50/50 coolant/water! I also a a couple of bottles of Redline Water Wetter.
From what I have been able to learn, the coolant level sensor circuit,
upon turning on the ignition, samples the resistance at the coolant
level sensor for a few moments. The coolant level warning light blinks a
warning until the sampling is complete. If the resistance falls in the
parameters engineered into the circuit, then the light goes out. If
not, the light stays on, or it may come on during operation if the
resistance changes suddenly, such as rupturing a hose and loosing all
the coolant around the probes on the coolant level sensor. Coolant
without sufficient water in it will cause the light to blink. Why??
Dense coolant doesn't cool nearly as well as coolant with the proper mix
of water. So the system is set up to warn you of the danger.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
John Rodgers
88 GL Driver
Gina wrote:
>this brings up another question for me...the owner's manual (85 1.9l) says
>regular antifreeze should not be used because it causes corrosion but i
>didnt find where it specifies what Should be used instead. anybody know?
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Oxroad" <Oxroad@AOL.COM>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:45 PM
>Subject: Re: Coolant - Have I screwd up my engine?
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>>In a message dated 6/3/2004 7:08:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>>pokey@VANAGON.ORG writes:
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>>>coolant reserve was dry, so I filled it up with straight
>>>undilluted coolant. Shortly after the coolant light would not
>>>stop blinking despite the fact that the gauge read OK
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>>I think the gauge and cooling light tell you different things. The coolant
>>temp may be fine at the gauge sending unit and so the gauge reads OK. But
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>the
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>>fluid level being low is one of the things that triggers the blinking
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>light.
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>>There's a fluid level sensor in the expansion tank--the bigger tank of the
>>two--the one inside the engine bay.
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>>Sounds to me like you have a coolant leak somewhere. This would explain
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>why
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>>you were low on coolant. Very possibly, and hopefully it is an external
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>leak
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>>and you can find it. Mine has had tiny leaks in the past which were hard
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>to
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>>find, but eventually got themselves noticed when the coolant went low
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>about once a
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>>month or so. Your cooling hoses etc. are differnt than on my 83.5, but my
>>leak sources were usually dried out hose, a pin hole in a hose, or a leak
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>at a
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>>junction.
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>>Depending on how much pure coolant you put in--and I'm guessing you didn't
>>put much in if you put it in via the overflow tank behind the license
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>plate--my
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>>guess is it wouldn't do any damage. But I would flush the system or
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>otherwise
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>>rectify the coolant heavy mix for proper cooling-- the recommended 50/50
>>coolant/water ratio I believe. Pure coolant will not cool the engine
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>properly. I
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>>ALWAYS use distilled water. I recommend distilled water because who wants
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>all
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>>them minerals in their cooling system to screw it up? I'm not even sure it
>>necessary, but it sure makes me feel better and the coolant always looks
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>very nice
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>>when I change it.
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>>(In the Vanagon cooling systems I have seen in junk yards the expansion
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>tanks
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>>are full of rust stains, mineral grit, etc. Who knows what's in your tap
>>water. I mean it's fine to drink, because we're all gonna die eventually
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>anyway.
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>>But your bus could last forever with proper care ;)
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>>Jeff
>>83.5 Westfalia
>>LA,CA
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