Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 2004 08:28:06 -0500
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Mobil 1 oil change interval
Comments: To: Doug in Calif <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
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Depending on the age and condition of your engine I question the use of
Synthetic Oils.
With older engines I'd say run it.
I run full gauges with CHT and synthetic oil lowered my oil temps and higher
oil pressure on hard run highway trips.
I changed to oil about every 10K and it was normally cleaner in appearance
than the standard motor oils.
I'm currently running Mobil 1 in my Porsche and I'm holding lower temps and
higher presures at long multi hour highway trips.
Oil is so cheap (even synthetics) since I only run 10K  a year on my Westy
or my Porsche. Damn site cheaper than cell phones, Cable TV, Auto Insurance,
Internet Services and State Inspections.
In my opinion it's about the cheapest part of operating an automobile.

Stan Wilder


----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug in Calif" <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Mobil 1 oil change interval


John,
Please allow me to differ.
One of the reasons I am not sold on synthetic oils is because dirt gets in
your oil at the same rate regardless of what type you run.
On the vanagon its overkill IMHO.
Sorry to differ right after you spent all that cash.
What are you hoping to gain?
better fuel economy?
longer lasting main bearings?
The costs far outweigh the gains if any at all.
The engine temps and oil requirements on the ole simple push rod wbx do not
require the benefits of synthetic.
Turbo motors for sure can benefit because of the high heat the turbo
bearings run at dino oil will break down.

I have a Porsche 968 and I run standard chevron motor oil I buy at costco
and change it whenever it starts to get dirty.
Keeping oil clean is far better than trying to run synthetic longer IMHO.
Its also far cheaper.
I know others will disagree but thats why we have the list.
I have pulled down hundreds of air cooled vw motors and porsche engines and
regular oil changes help quite a bit on wear and tear.
Standard oils work fine for standard service.
If you are running an indy car at 12000 things are different for sure.

Doug

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: John Meeks
  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
  Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:55 PM
  Subject: Mobil 1 oil change interval


  Hey List,
          Today I changed my Castrol GTX 10w-40 (dino) winter oil for Mobil
1
  15W-50 full synthetic on my 160,000 mi 2.1l Multivan. How long can I
  expect to run it before the next oil change? I'd like to take a survey
  on average oil change intervals for people running full synthetic in
  their WBX engines.
  Thanks in advance for your input.
  --
  John Meeks
  '91 multivan
  Top of lower Michigan
  Vanagon Rescue Squad
  http://www.vanagonauts.com/?catid=74