Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:06:46 -0400
Reply-To: tmiller <tmiller@VCMAILS.COM>
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From: tmiller <tmiller@VCMAILS.COM>
Subject: Re: Synthetic oils in the vanagon
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Tom:
That is not uncommon. I have seen oil filter canisters burst because
the cold dino oil did not want to move causing the pressure to build to
the bursting point. This is where you get a lot of startup wear. Oil
isn't getting to the parts. High oil pressure means no oil flow. Not
a good thing.
TEMiller
tom ring wrote:
>10-30 dino oil in my 84 GTI would leak out about a quarter cup around the
>filter gasket during startuip/warmup at 20 below here in MN. Mobil 1 10-30
>would not. Same filter, same gasket, same temp. I also had an oil pressure
>gauge which showed much higher cold startup pressures with dino. 200 psi+,
>pinned at as high as it would read, and that at idle. That unknown, but high,
>pressure was confirmed by my VW dealership as being typical with dino in the
>winter on the inline 4 engine.
>
>tom
>
>On 2 Jun 2004 at 11:53, Tom Miller wrote:
>
>
>
>>I've been in -40 temps in Idaho in January and up in Kapuskasing, Ontario
>>where GM has (used to have?) their Cold Weather Testing Station.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jeff Palmer" <icecoldvw@HOTMAIL.COM>
>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 12:18 AM
>>Subject: Re: Synthetic oils in the vanagon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Careful Robert - I am tempted to leave this -40 environment and head south
>>>to open up a can of whoop ass come this February.
>>>
>>>Jeff in Winnipeg
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Robert Fisher" <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
>>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:57 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Synthetic oils in the vanagon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>More sense for what? Burning it so you don't freeze your ass off? Why in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>hell would you want to go outside in -40 temps anyway? How does 'more
>>>>
>>>>
>>>sense'
>>>
>>>
>>>>fit in with being outside when it's 40 below?
>>>>: )
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, couldn't resist...
>>>>
>>>>Robert
>>>>in SoCal (who hasn't been in -40 weather since his navy ship went into
>>>>
>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>Arctic Circle back in '87)
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Mike Collum" <collum@VERIZON.NET>
>>>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:35 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Synthetic oils in the vanagon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Let's talk about the other end of the oil problem. Flowing in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>extremely
>>
>>
>>>>>cold weather.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does synthetic oil make more sense when the outside temperature
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>is -40°
>>
>>
>>>F
>>>
>>>
>>>>?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>------
>Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW EN34hx
>85 Westphalia GL Albert
>96 Jetta GL The Intimidator
>taring@taring.org
>
>"It is better to go into a turn slow, and come out fast, than to go into a turn fast
>and come out dead." Stirling Moss
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