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Date:         Tue, 1 Jun 2004 16:02:31 -0500
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Synthetic oils in the vanagon
Comments: To: "Greenamyer, William L" <william.l.greenamyer@BOEING.COM>
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The rule here on oil filters is. #1) The PO of my 912e drove the car 27 years just using 10/30w Pennzoil (manual calls for straight HD 30 Wt.) He drove it 65,000 miles in that time frame without an engine failure. It currently produces well over 75 PSI on cold start up, 45 PSI at 230 degrees all out running at 75-80 miles an hour for hour after hour of summertime operation with the A/C operating. Idle oil pressure is about 14 psi at 1000 rpms. At 500 rpms it drops enough to cause the oil light to flicker. He used Porsche or Mahle filters. #2) On my last Air Cooled 83 Vanagon with a Type IV engine the PO drove it 145,000 miles in 17 years without an engine failure using 10/30wt Pennzoil. He didn't ever drop a valve seat, spin a rod bearing and he replaced the engine when it got weak with only 80 PSI on one cylinder (#3) while the other three were still at 110 psi. He used whatever filter Sears or other quick oil change place put on his Westy. #3) I think many others can Echo similar stories of long life engines that survived a long time with just the minimal maintenance and oil changes recommended in their owners manuals. There just aren't any oils. filters, additives that can add back Babbitt to bearings, take stress or stretch patterns out of cases, rods or other engine parts. The only thing that I've ever found that could actually "chemically improve" an engine was the MMO additive that effectively removes sludge, carbon and frees up the piston rings so they can reseat. If you're going to start out with a newly rebuilt engine the specialty oil filters and specialty oils might give you extended engine life. On the old engines I think it's pretty well proven that they have already lasted far longer than VW ever intended.

Stan Wilder

----- Original Message ----- From: "Greenamyer, William L" <william.l.greenamyer@BOEING.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Synthetic oils in the vanagon

Since the topic cames up from time to time, I am putting up some sites on some filters that fit right in. These sites are for filters that offer extended use of the oil (falls right in with synthetic oils) . I have been collecting some data for a while but really have not had the time to actually try one of them. Some of the people on this list have a little experience with some of these and you might pass along some of the information so that newer members of the list can be enlightened.

http://www.garynorth.com/y2k/detail_.cfm/5359

http://www.p2pays.org/ref/01/00124.htm

http://www.oilshop.com/amsoil/amsoil.bypass.htm

http://trasko-usa.com/

http://www.gulfcoastfilters.com/

William


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