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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:58:43 -0400
Reply-To:     Martin Green <adelgreen@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Martin Green <adelgreen@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: AC concerns
In-Reply-To:  <3C034BCA-C029-11D8-8ADA-000A95D4810A@mac.com>
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Officially, just so people know, HydroCarbon refrigerants are not allowed in all states. From the EPA website about HC refrigerants (http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/refrigerants/hc-12a.html#q9)

The following 18 states ban the use of flammable refrigerants such as HC-12aŽ and DURACOOL 12aŽ in motor vehicle air conditioning, regardless of the original refrigerant: Arkansas, Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Washington, and the District of Columbia.

Therefore, it may be hard to find technicians in those states willing to work with these products. You may be able to have a shop evacuate your old and draw a vacuum on your system and then add the HC12a or Freeze12 at home later.

I don't know what the penalties are for using this stuff in the above states. Just a FYI.

YMMV,

Martin Green

2002 Chevy Malibu 1997 Volvo 960 1982 Volvo 245T (soon to be Ti) 1977 Volvo 244 1974 VW Bus (Carb fire - waiting to rebuild) 1972 VW Camper (basketcase - waiting for paternity leave to strip for paint, rebuild corvair engine!)

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:40:34 -0400, Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM> wrote:

> Technically, no, you don't have to change the oil. Officially, in the > US, yes you do. > > The USDOT, requires that vehicles using Freeze 12, Duracool, HC 12a and > other similar products must first have been converter to R134a fittings > and oil and be properly labeled. > > However, as I have commented before, and Glen Smith echos, these other > freons are GREAT in Vanagons.


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