Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 18:32:58 -0700
Reply-To: Al Knoll <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET>
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From: Al Knoll <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET>
Subject: Re: Friday Wal Mart standoff comments withdrawn.
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So far Bruce, you are in the minority regarding commentary. You apparently
choose to read some sort of advocacy where none was intended. I don't
advocate anyone doing anything, politically. I made only commentary
regarding facts and crime rate statistics available publicly. You are of
course entitled to have any and all opinions you might wish and to voice
them on any venue you choose.
Many of the "younger players" seem blissfully unaware of the world around
their vanagon in their travels.
What would you do in a situation where you were accosted in your vanagon? I
would make a hasty exit elsewhere which is the only advice or avocacy in my
text. You of course are free to do whatever you choose.
Fortune favors those who carry spare parts in their vanagon for those unseen
situations when only a plastic coolant distribution block or a particular
length alternator belt will do. For those who do not look ahead and prepare
for the inevitable breakdown of our almost antique vanagons, the road is a
little more uncertain.
Listerines, Please consider my previous comments withdrawn. Sorry to have
offended those who felt offended.
Any discussion should be off-list.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bruce Nadig [mailto:motorbruce@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:32 PM
>To: al_knoll@PACBELL.NET; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Friday Wal Mart standoff.
>
>
>
>Zero Vanagon Content.
>
>Just Political Commentary/Advocacy.
>
>Nothing But Arguments Will Arise From This.
>
>Please, Everyone, Shut This Thread Down Now Before Tom Carrington
>Has To Get
>Involved.
>
>Just A Polite Suggestion.
>
>Cheers All,
>Bruce
>motorbruce
>
>
>
>>From: Al Knoll <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET>
>>Reply-To: Al Knoll <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET>
>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>Subject: Re: Friday Wal Mart standoff.
>>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:00:45 -0700
>>
>>One of the reasons Florida doesn't have as high a problem rate in these
>>areas is that a CCW license is simple to obtain. If you were a
>>"questionable character", would you harass some little old lady without
>>knowing whether or not she was carrying personal defense? An
>armed society
>>is a polite society some have said. However it is always one's own choice
>>in the matter. You may want to note that California's finest sport both a
>>short barreled shotgun AND an "assault rifle" in their pursuit cars these
>>days. Makes one think a bit.
>>
>>Most 911 responses are crime scene tapers it seems. Too much
>crime for the
>>Law Enforcement Officers to get there in time to do any good.
>Your personal
>>protection in or out of your Vanagon is your responsibility. The best
>>response is hasty flight.
>>
>>The NM incident is more than likely does not involve a licensed CCW
>>citizen,
>>but we shall see, I suppose.
>>
>>
>>Kristin might still be with us had she been trained in personal defense.
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