Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:49:17 -0400
Reply-To: vw4x4@FYI.NET
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Subject: Re: Is it me, or is list traffic down?
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BOb,
I'm glad you see things my way.. I have lots of people who are
more than willing to bring me there work and wait for it to get done
right. There are others who I will only get the time of day, because
of there inistance of being politicly correct, as you insist here.
ERic
Robert Fisher wrote:
>>There is a big difference between telling the list your vanagon
>>has a timing belt and asking how often it needs changed,
>>instead of simply asking if it has a timing belt that needs maintenance.
>>
>>
>
>No there isn't. There's no telling why she had that idea in mind, and it
>doesn't matter. All that needed to be said was 'good news, your engine
>doesn't have a timing belt, so there's one thing you don't have to worry
>about' (or the like). In fact, since she didn't state what engine she had,
>the responses she got were based on assumptions- and you know what they say
>about assumptions. Given the possible circumstances, it's clear that the
>list members' ignorance of her engine was greater than her own- so who has
>the bigger problem? IMO, the best response would have been 'What engine do
>you have in your vehicle?'
>Aside from her case, the simple fact is that there are several people on
>this list who can say that their Vanagons have timing belts, so it's a
>perfectly legitimate question.
>
>
>
>> As a side note: I make a ton of money on people like
>>this. They bring there cars to me and state that they need
>>something replaced. I replace it for them. Then, they
>>bitch at me because it did not fix the problem. I simply
>>remind them, that they ask me to replace a part, not to
>>diagnose a problem.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>
>Well there you go. If anyone here had any questions about your nature, you
>just answered them. That statement says more about you and your ethics than
>anyone else could possibly have contributed- thanks for the heads-up.
>
>Most sincerely,
>Robert
>
>
>
>>Robert Fisher wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I dunno, maybe people are sick and tired of being pounced on and beat
>>>
>>>
>about
>
>
>>>the head when they post.
>>>Seems to me that this list is for the exchange of what is by its nature
>>>obscure information about an obscure automobile, which by default
>>>necessitates exposing the posters' ignorance and/or misinformation- or
>>>
>>>
>they
>
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>>>wouldn't be asking. With various malignant personalities poisoning the
>>>atmosphere and just waiting in the shadows to flame some unfortunate
>>>
>>>
>person
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>>>looking for help or trying to offer help (even if they make a mistake in
>>>doing so), it's no wonder if people are being driven away, or even just
>>>driven into lurking.
>>>It should be enough to correct mistakes or misinformation, or even to
>>>
>>>
>offer
>
>
>>>a differing opinion, without resorting to personal attacks on someone's
>>>intelligence, politics, nationality, age, choice of operating
>>>
>>>
>system/email
>
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>>>program, mechanical aptitude, ability to use English or whatever
>>>
>>>
>perceived
>
>
>>>weakness or fault presents itself.
>>>
>>>Of course all of that should go without saying, but there will always be
>>>folks that either don't get it or just refuse to be civil.
>>>
>>>Life goes on,
>>>Robert
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "David Marshall" <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
>>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 6:55 PM
>>>Subject: Is it me, or is list traffic down?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Volks,
>>>>I am getting about 30 to 40 messages a day instead of the usual 100ish.
>>>>Have we POed enough people lately to thin out the list or is my ISP
>>>>
>>>>
>still
>
>
>>>>not delivering of my email to me?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>David Marshall
>>>>
>>>>Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
>>>>4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road
>>>>Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
>>>>
>>>>http://www.fastforward.ca mailto:sales@fastforward.ca
>>>>Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>Due to the large volume of email we receive, PLEASE include
>>>>
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>previous
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>>>>emails when responding. This will allow us to read the complete
>>>>
>>>>
>dialogue
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>>>>in one message and will result in quicker and more accurate responses.
>>>>
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