Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:41:58 +0000
Reply-To: Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: DEAR GOD Re: timing belt
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Ok Eric, dont make me dig this up from the archives.
You specifically stated that you had in your hand a 3 (yes, THREE) wire ISV
for a Digifant. You stated it was factory and that you had a ton of them. I
repeatedly asked you for a part number or a pic. You never gave either one.
But yet you stick to your story (cause thats what it is).
Then you state that you think I am saying that a three wire ISV is the same
as a two wire ISV. Dude, you really need to take a chill pill and follow up
on your statements.
The only reason I asked this of you was to see if indeed you did have a 3
wire ISV and what possible use it would have been on a factory designed
Digifant injection system. It seems that you never had a 3 wire DIGIFANT ISV
but wouldnt proclaim that.
You can sit there and set me up by saying that noone should listen to
anything I have to say after you post. Thats rather arrogant isnt it? Then
you state that I am saying something that I most certainly would never say.
Did you plan it that way? If so, Kudos to you for the forethought to attempt
to set me up. OTOH, thumbsdown to you for being a poor communicator and
angry about something that you said you would solve.
BTW, still no pic or part number yet.
Yes, Digifant golf and jetta isvs work on vanagons. The 3 wire ISV is for
earlier model golf jetta scirocco with CIS-E. CIS Motronic ISVs might work
on a Vanagon, I dont know. They are two wire and completely differently
shaped.
If you would like Eric, I will get the posts where you specifically state
that you had a Digifant 3 wire ISV in your hand and you would be willing to
show me a pic or even a part number. Which you never did. Excuse me for
wondering about some sort of potential anomaly with respect to different
country oriented FI systems and wondering about how it could be to have a 3
wire ISV.
regards,
Chris DeLong
Fine Tuning
206.522.5503
www.finetuningperformance.com
Seattle, WA USA
>From: Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
>Reply-To: vw4x4@FYI.NET
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: DEAR GOD Re: timing belt
>Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:11:26 -0400
>
>Tom,
> I have no idea as to what year, but I have seen many of
>these types of ISV plugs on Golfs, Jettas, CIS-E fuel systems,
>digifant, old and new. They are not the same plug as the
>Vanagon, as chris states.
> Eric
>
>
>Tom Miller wrote:
>
>>Eric:
>>
>>At the risk of being scolded, my 92 Jetta 2 wire idle stabilizer is
>>interchangeable with the 2 wire idle stabilizer in my 89 Vanagon Camper.
>>What year did they go to three wire stabilizers in Jetta's?
>>TEMiller
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Eric Zeno" <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:16 AM
>>Subject: Re: DEAR GOD Re: timing belt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Chris,
>>> What the h$$ are you talking about. In my hands the other day were
>>>both 2 and 3 wire idle stabilizers. I don't have time to piss around
>>>correcting
>>>all this BS hear. You or any one talking about timing belt changes,
>>>arguing with someone that it is a timing chain in vanagon engine.
>>> If you insist I will make a fool out of you and take time out of my
>>>busy schedule, and put you in your place. To the list: be prepared
>>>to disregard anything from Chris. He asked for it! Now he is going
>>>to be the fool. I'll be posting a picture to my WEB sight soon,
>>>of both Jetta and Vanagon 3 and 2 wire stabilizers, sided by side.
>>>It will be clear that one will not work, in place of the other. When
>>>I do you are the one that needs to apologize. Boy do you have
>>>guts, as wrong as you can be. People like you are the people
>>>I can not stand the most. You think you know it all.... Well time
>>>the grow up because you don't.
>>>
>>>
>>> ERic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris DeLong wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thank you Eric. Oh yeah, still havent seen any pic of the infamous (I
>>>>presume, non-existent) 3-wire Digifant idle stabilizer. And no, dont
>>>>even ask, I will not give it up until you admit that you posted faulty
>>>>information or apologize to the list for not knowing what you were
>>>>talking about.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>regards,
>>>>
>>>>Chris DeLong
>>>>Fine Tuning
>>>>206.522.5503
>>>>www.finetuningperformance.com
>>>>Seattle, WA USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
>>>>>Reply-To: Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
>>>>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>Subject: DEAR GOD Re: timing belt
>>>>>Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:26:15 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>>"No Belt...timing chain instead"
>>>>>
>>>>>Dear GOd. Please help this list. It has become full of (SH)
>>>>>non-sense.
>>>>>Full of people saying things that they have no clue of what they are
>>>>>talking about. God, this list is going to H$%^LL, without your help
>>>>>to keep people in check.
>>>>> Please God, strick the next person dead who posts anything that
>>>>>they are not 1000% sure of to be true.
>>>>>
>>>>> amen
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric 86-VW4x4
>>>>> vw4x4@fyi.net 86-SS Syncro
>>>>> Pittsburgh, PA USA 1936-Chrysler
>>>>> 92-Jetta GWC
>>>>> www.fyi.net/~vw4x4/vw4x4.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, george jannini wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No belt...timing chain instead, and it's not a part of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>maintenance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>schedule.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George
>>>>>> '89 WesTiico, Wernher
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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