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Date:         Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:19:32 -0400
Reply-To:     caverat <caverat@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         caverat <caverat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: OT - Elvis Radio - All Elvis, all the time
Comments: To: tim <h2oboxer@optonline.net>
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Hi Tim,

Thanks for your constructive criticism. I know I went a little overboard last summer when I was temporarily laid off and had a lot of extra time on my hand. I've only posted a few times on the subject since then. I'm not shilling for Sirius, but I should be able to make an occasional OT post about something I think might be of interest to fellow listmembers. Others do it all the time. It does sound like a sales job at time, but I like the service and I suspect you like your XM radio also. There are many others who use this list to sell products that go in their vanagons that are of no interest to many of the listmembers. I've bought some of them, I don't read most. I'm not trying to sell anything, just trying to provide some information to those who might be interested in the topic. There are millions of Elvis fans, and some of them drive vanagons and also like football. They don't have to get a Sirius radio to think the concept of Elvis radio or hearing their favorite team while camping in the middle of nowhere is interesting. Several listmembers have gotten free Sirius radios based on information I have provided. I've gotten all three of mine free from different vendor employee only deals I've learned about and I felt it was a deal others might be interested it. I've gotten nothing from that other than some thank you emails from several listmembers who have gotten free radios from the same deals. No one told Sirius when they ordered their free radio to send caverat his commission check. Sirius might actually be pissed because those deals weren't open for everyone, only employees of stores who sell the radios. I will certainly tone down the sales pitch if I post a future OT note on this subject, but the tone is based on some enthusiasm for something I enjoy and not anything else.

I guess this makes post number 40. I didn't know we tracked things like that. If you added in the "appropriate" posts I use to do under my old email address before I even knew Sirius existed, the ratio wouldn't seem anywhere nearly as bad as your astute observation has shown. I will admit though, based only on this subject it's worse that I realized. My apologies to those who aren't at all interested in the subject.

Believe it or not, I actually got an inquiry a few days ago from a listmember who came across an archive post I made on the subject who wanted to get a radio for his van for an extended trip he had planned. I hadn't posted on this subject in a while, but when the Elvis radio announcement came out two days later, I figured I would pass that on. Some listmembers are actually interested in it, but I do agree my posts do sound too much like a sales job. Sorry about that.

caverat 89 westy

----- Original Message ----- From: "tim" <h2oboxer@optonline.net> To: "'caverat'" <caverat@COMCAST.NET>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:34 PM Subject: RE: OT - Elvis Radio - All Elvis, all the time

> Caverat, > > It seems like the only time you post to the list is when you are > shilling for Sirius. You've made 39 posts and 35 of them are pushing > Sirius satellite radio. Are you like that guy on TV that "unofficially" > works for Wendy's. > > > I'm glad you like your satellite radio service. I, myself am a XM > subscriber. But that has no bearing on the discussion. > > Lighten up on the sales pitch. > > Now back to our regularly scheduled programming..... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of caverat > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:52 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: OT - Elvis Radio - All Elvis, all the time > > > Unfortunately they dumped my 2 favorite channels and were > > most unreceptive to my suggestions to bring the format back. > > I have seen a steady degradation of Sirius programming over the last > 10 > > months. Sirius is great if you like hardrock, sports or partyline > conservative talk > > shows. It doesn't offer much for someone like me. I'm looking at this > post > > as OT spam. > > > Sorry to hear you didn't like the service. With over 100 channels, most > people will find several that they like. I personally think the > programming has improved, and I never listen to the hardrock, sports, or > partyline conservative talk shows. There are many other options that I > like better. They have dropped not-as-popular channels and added new > ones in their place. Several more channel changes are coming in a few > days. They do listen to all suggestions though, but they make channel > content decisions for business reasons to attract more people to the > service. Here's a customer service response posted on a newsgroup to > their approach: > > "We do our best to accommodate all of our > listeners and their wants and needs. In having to deal with a large > audience (all of America) we do our best to appeal to the most of our > subscribers and visitors, as we consider our customers in every move we > make. As SIRIUS does not add commercials to our music streams, changes > and additions to our service and website are driven by our customers > rather than dictated by advertisers and we are forwarding your comments > to our programming team for review. We rely on the input of all of our > subscribers as every minor consideration is still a consideration we > want to be able to make. > We are dedicated to providing quality service and customer satisfaction. > We encourage comments on how we can improve our service." > > Even though you consider it spam, it is not intended to be. It may be > somewhat off topic, but to me it also has to do with making a vanagon > driving experience even more enjoyable. The Elvis Radio item is getting > a lot of press, and I figured there must be a least one listmember who > would be interested in the news. > >


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