Date:         Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:46:29 -0800
Reply-To:     Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
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From:         Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
Subject:      Re: OT personal favor(NVC)
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As much as I hate to see a flame fest.....

No, I have not forgotten.

Yes, thousands of innocent people died, and many thousands more lost loved ones.

Yes, unfortunately America did have a roll in the attack. If we, not you or I individually, but America as a country, treated other countries with the diginity, respect, and courtesy that they deserve as sovereign nations, they would not hate us so much. Some will hate us no matter what, but far fewer then do now because of how we have treated them since becoming a world power.

The single most important thing that seperates America from many other countries is our Constitution and the freedoms that it provides, but we chose to not apply those same ideals when dealing with others.

The police state mentality in Ians story is not the America that I want to live in, and I will support any lawful efforts to keep it from becoming that.


Mark in AK - Flame on!



----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Kennedy <JK@PROJECTDESIGN.COM>
Date: Friday, July 9, 2004 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: OT personal favor

> Ok, here we go.
>
> You people amazingly seem to forget that our nation has been
> attacked, the
> twin towers were DROPPED, thousands of innocents have perished,
> thousands of
> children have lost a parent.  We are at war.  These people want to
> murderyour family via the destruction of the community you live
> in.  And if you
> say that the initial attack on 9-11 was in some part our fault,
> then you are
> .. well, I'll stop there.
>
> By the way, I love my '87 GL and you better not mess with it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gnarlodious [gnarlodious@EARTHLINK.NET]
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 3:51 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: OT personal favor
>
>
> Entity David Beierl spoke thus:
>
> > http://www.brownequalsterrorist.com/artiststatement/
>
> Ye Gods! What have we come to??? You can get a criminal complaint for
> photographing a bridge? This Bush character and his corporate
> raiders have
> GOT TO GO! If you ask me they are the criminals, not the Seattle
> photographer!
>
> Ye Gods! This nation has gone insane!
>
> -- Gnarlie
> Gnarlie's virtual Tour de Santa Fe
> http://www.Gnarlodious.com/SantaFe/Tour.php
>