Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 21:05:28 -0700
Reply-To: Shawn Wright <swright@ZUIKO.SLS.BC.CA>
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From: Shawn Wright <swright@ZUIKO.SLS.BC.CA>
Subject: Re: Springs, Syncro into 2WD swap?
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">This sounds interesting. What causes the ride to be terrible? Are the springs that much
stiffer to handle the syncro driveline weight, or is it because the 2WD suspension is
topped out with this setup? I assume Syncro control arms are quite difference to
accommodate the extra height. I'm interested in a low cost way to do this - I can't afford
$410+ just for 1/2" extra height (I need to save for a TD Syncro... ;-). I'm going to look
into adding some rubber spacers first, as suggested by another list member:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/s-10101/storeId-10101/p-1116/c-10101/catalogId-10101</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">On 10 Jul 2004 at 21:14, Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> Mark is right. Although, it can be done to put syncro front shocks (these</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> have an integrated spring perch) on a 2wd with syncro springs. This will</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> raise you about 3-4 inches. The ride is terrible and its pretty tricky to</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> get the syncro stuff in there.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >From: mark drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >Reply-To: mark drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >Subject: Re: Springs, Syncro into 2WD swap?</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:28:30 -0700</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >Syncro front springs are shorter than 2wd springs, won't help your problem.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >There are slightly taller and slightly stiffer 2wd springs available</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >from Syncro.org Here is the link.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >http://www.syncro.org/springs.shtml#2WDsprings</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >The best way to measure and compare the suspension sag is to measure</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >from the fender lip to the CENTER of the wheel. Measuring to the ground</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >introduces tire size, wear, and pressures as complicating factors.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >Mark</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >Shawn Wright wrote:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> ></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>Sorry if this has been covered before, but I can't seem to find the posts. I</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>am still seeking a way to raise the front end of my '88 Westy. When loaded for</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>camping, I have very little clearance left in the front end for the roads we</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>tend to travel on. (My front air dam is now badly battered - I only leave it</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>on as early warning that I'm about the hit, and gauge how badly it will bottom</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>out...)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>Empty, I have about 28.5" measured from a concrete floor to the edge of</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>the</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>front wheel arch. This drops to 26" or less when loaded.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>The rear is about 29" empty, and only drops 1-2" when loaded normally.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>Will Syncro front springs fit? Will they help? Any other options? I've</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>seen the</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>spacer trick for the rear, but it doesn't appear any such trick can be</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>done on</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>the front...</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>ps: I have KYB's all around, Gr-2 front, GasAdjust rear. I'm thinking of</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>upgrading to Bilsteins in the front to help with nosedive, the rear are ok for</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">> >>now.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Shawn Wright</span></font></div>
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