Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:18:22 -0500
Reply-To: John Rodgers <jh_rodgers@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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From: John Rodgers <jh_rodgers@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject: Re: Draining Fluid From the Fuel Filter
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I'm talking Gasoline.
Diesels are another issue.
When living in Alaska, I flew turbo-prop aircraft for many years. We
used jet fuel - since a turbo-prop is a jet engine with a gearbox and a
propeller on it. The "Jet Fuel" was "Arctic Diesel", a lightweight grade
of diesel that had really been worked on to make sure there was no water
in it. Even so, there were additives available to help with the water
entrainment. I cannot for the life of me remember what the stuff was
called however.
So far as the diesel fuel went, the most difficulty with it was the
foaming that the stuff does.
Speaking of diesels, the older ships use to run "Bunker Oil" for fuel.
This stuff was like tar, and it had to be heated to get it to flow
enough to get into into the engines for combustion.
Modern vessels are powered by diesel-electric power systems.
Regards,
John Rodgers
88 GL Driver
Dennis Haynes wrote:
>Are you talking Gasoline or Diesel? Diesel fuel can be much more of a
>problem. Diesel fuel systems have water separators since water is easily
>absorbed into Diesel and can be more hazardous to the fuel system. Water
>passing through the injectors can erode and destroy them quickly.
>
>Dennis
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Rodgers [mailto:jh_rodgers@bellsouth.net]
>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 7:59 PM
>To: Dennis Haynes
>Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Draining Fluid From the Fuel Filter
>
>Having lived in Alaska for 30 years, I have learned about ice and water
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>in the fuel lines. The common practice was/is to add a small amount of
>Alcohol to gasoline tank - say a pint - every other tankful or so - to
>keep the water that accumulates from condensation out of there. Most
>common was Heet, a brand sold in the gas stations. Did the job.
>
>Alcohol will absorb any water, and will mix with the gas and be passed
>out through the fuel lines to the chyinders. If there is a lot of water,
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>then warming the vehicle and draining the lines is the only solution.
>But one can keep ahead of it by simple planning and routine preventive
>maintenance.
>
>Regards,
>
>John Rodgers
>88 GL Driver
>
>Dennis Haynes wrote:
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>>The need to drain water from the filter/separator depends on the
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>quality
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>>of the fuel you get. Some say to check it after every fill up. If you
>>get your fuel from the same place and you never see water, then you can
>>drain it infrequently. If you do get water and you allow it to
>>accumulate, eventually it will stop the flow and shut you down. In
>>winter use, it can also freeze plugging the filter. If water should get
>>into the injection pump, nasty things can happen there. As for Diesels
>>being noisy, the noise is due to a combination of the injectors
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>slamming
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>>and the higher compression ratios/combustion process.
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>>Dennis
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>>Of Dave Chameides
>>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 1:16 AM
>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>Subject: Draining Fluid From the Fuel Filter
>>
>>I have an 83 Diesel 1.6 and am new to this whole diesel thing so how
>>often
>>do I have to drain the water out of the fuel filter and is there
>>anything
>>other than common sense involved in doing this? What happens if I
>>neglect
>>it (not that I would but just wondering)? And finally, and this is a
>>more
>>general diesel question, why do diesels make more noise than
>>conventional
>>gasoline engines? Thatıs probably a stupid question but Iım still
>>wondering. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller......
>>
>>Dave
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>>Lead by example.
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