Date:         Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:06:56 -0400
Reply-To:     Ron Tipton <uther@DRAGONHOME.ORG>
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From:         Ron Tipton <uther@DRAGONHOME.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Back from the Cali North Coast, Westies & RVs
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Eric,

Well, here I am defending RVers again.

On Jul 27, 2004, at 7:43 AM, Eric Zeno wrote:

>  I  agree 100% with you but would like to add a few more
> comments.  People who use RV to me seem to want to bring the
> city into the woods.  I go into the woods to get a way from the city.
> I wish they never invented RV's.

You are aware that a westie is a RV, right?

> Keep the noise and pollution where it
> belongs.   The RV's seem to want the radio blasting,  the AC on
> and the TV reception to be better.  If this is you stay home.

Hummm, I'd say "let him without sin cast the first stone".  I've read
numerous posts on this list about radios and other sound systems;
both car and camper ACs and TV and internet access while on the
road in a westie.  I don's see how VW campers are any different
than RVers.

When I used to backpack, I heard that same sort of comment about
folks who car camped (using a tent).  When I car camped, I heard those
comments about folks who pulled small trailers or stayed in westies.
Now I'm hearing them from folks who camp in westies about folks who
camp in larger RVs.

>     One last note if you can't fix your RV, (yourself) stay in the
> city where someone will help you.

I, for one, have never found "someone to help" to be more common in
the city than in the boonies.  I can do a bit of work myself (I was
employed
as an auto mechanic for a few years) and I have AAA but I'd sure hate to
limit camping to folks who know how to fix cars!

> Your price for  taking the city
> to the woods, is knowing how to appreciate it!

I agree.  What I don't agree with is the assumption that my (or your)
way
of appreciating it is the only way.  If I don't want to be around RVs,
I can
go somewhere that's only accessable by a 4x4... or somewhere where
I have to hike in and out.

r



Ron Tipton
IT Specialist III
Laboratory for Information Technologies
University of Tennessee