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Date:         Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:21:54 -0400
Reply-To:     ROBERT DONALDS <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         ROBERT DONALDS <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
Subject:      Re:      Re:       Experiment
Comments: To: FrankGRUN@AOL.COM
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About 10 or 15 years ago Edelbrock made a water injection system to prevent knock and it worked well. The military used water injection to boost power on some WW2 fighters. I called Edelbrock a few years ago to see if they still had this unit availible the nice lady that I spoke with explained that the RV crowd had taken to the water injection idea. They also hooked it up to the water supply on the RVs and turned the injection to the max. Only problem was the engines in the RVs would sieze up when they spent the winter with all that water build up in the crankcase. So when the law suits started production stopped the injection would need to be limited to higher load conditions like full throttle or a push button on the dash to give that extra boost. If you could find a way to have it feed the engine on the highway at speed that would be nice. a vacuum switch or an throttle switch might work

steam powered vanagons I like it

going faster miles an hour with the radio on I remain Bob Donalds Boston Engine

----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Grunthaner" <FrankGRUN@AOL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Experiment

In a message dated 7/27/04 11:09:15 AM, JK@PROJECTDESIGN.COM writes:

> Vanagonians, > > I want to experiment (just for fun) with doing water injection, such as a > mister into the intake manifold. Can any harm be done in trying this? I > can't think of any. > > Jim > '87 GL >

Jim,

My son (using the moniker "marty") published an extensive set of notes on the chemical, physical and mechanical issues regarding fabricating and using water injection for both turbo and supercharged VW engines on VWVortex. Search their archives. He also gave the detailed results of a number of experiments we did including the droplet size of the injector system, pulsed or semi-continuous flow, mixture ratios with methanol or ethanol, etc.

I'm using a similar system on my turbo Audi (that I may finish one of these years).

Frank Grunthaner


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