Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:06:12 -0700
Reply-To: The Shaws <mindthegap01@COMCAST.NET>
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From: The Shaws <mindthegap01@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Vanagon junk yards in Portland OR
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I am planning a trip to the portland area and was wondering what are the
best vanagon junk yards?
I would especially like the pull and save type but not limited to those. I
need lots of little things :-)
I saw a site with lots listed but I can not find it...
peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Delanty" <laurasdog@WEIRDSTUFFWEMAKE.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: 3.3 verses 4.3 verses 1.9???
> At 01:07 PM 7/26/2004, The Shaws wrote:
>
> >"Torque is what pushes the vanagon up a hill". Assuming we are traveling
at
> >70 mph (washington state speed limit on highway 90) and hit the eastside
of
> >the cascades. I would like to continue going 70. Assuming standard
gearing
> >and standard 14" wheels what rpm's would I be doing in with each engine?
>
> About 3890 RPM at 70mph with stock gears and tires. You're already WAY
> past the 1.9L AHU torque peak. It ran out of breath long ago.
>
> At 3900 RPM subie 2.2 is making 15 ft lbs more torque and still 500 RPM
below
> it's torque peak peak.
>
> Want more still? Down shift to 3rd.Now you're turning 5390 RPM. You're
sitting
> right on top of the 2.2L HP peak with about 125 Ft lbs of torque,
multiplied
> times the 3rd gear ratio. Spinning it? Sure. But you're still -1100 RPM
below-
> the subaru redline, and it's quiet, smooth and more than willing to
accelerate
> you past that diesel that's been going 45 MPH in front of you all the way
up
> the hill.
>
> > The big increase in torque at higher rpm's in
> >all 2.2 from 4000 to 6000 rpms.
>
> I find that it's a VERY rewarding spot for more torque in the vanagon.
> The upper RPM range is what's severely lacking with the WBX.
> That's why it's so hard to keep 70 mph underfoot in the hills with
> the WBX. Sure it's easy to go 50 with the WBX. That's where it's
> torque peak is....
>
> >So how much driving will you do at 4000+ rpms?
>
> Every time I accelerate onto the freeway.
> Anytime I'm on I-5
> When I want to pass something stinky.
> When I'm on a steep hill with a load of camping gear and
> need 3rd gear to keep moving at 65-70 MPH.
> Engine redline of 6500 RPM equates to over 84 MPH in 3rd
> gear.
>
> >I guess my question is what do I get with more low end torque? Faster
"off
> >the line"?
>
> Yes, better launching off the line, better low speed acceleration.
> Do you need more acceleration from 0-50 MPH?
>
>
> > And what do I get for more high end torque?
>
> Better acceleration at freeway speed.
> The ability to keep moving at freeway speed in a head wind
> or up a steep hill.
> The ability to use 3rd gear for excellent acceleration or hill
> climbing power.
>
> Keep in mind where the Vanagon NEEDS more power.
> At low speeds? No. At higher speeds? Most definately..
>
> I find that acceleration form 0-50MPH is just fine even with a
> WBX. The low speed torque and gearing make that easy enough.
> It's TOP END performance that's lacking in a Vanagon. Speeds
> above 60MPH is where the vanagon has a hard time.
> That's where it needs more power. .. and from 3500RPM up
> is where it needs more torque for decent freeway driving.
>
> >And if torque is the goal then seems like the 2.5 is the answer.
>
> Well, yeah... (-:
>
>
> Steve
> '86 Westy "Escape Pod" (EJ22)
> '73 Beetle "ain't got a name yet"
>
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