Date:         Wed, 4 Aug 2004 10:11:58 -0700
Reply-To:     jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM
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From:         Jeff at Vanagonparts <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Use this for fire safetey... AND eliminate the fire hazard...
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By the time your magnesium parts start burning, the rest of the car will be
nice and toasted.

I have conducted many sceintific experiments burning magnesium based VW
parts (can you say bonfires) and have noticed one thing... it takes a long
time for it to ignite.

Cheers,

Jeff
www.vanagonparts.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of Stan Wilder
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:24 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Use this for fire safetey... AND eliminate the fire
hazard...


Steel engine covers will not stop the fire from going into the interior of
your Vanagon.
There are still magnesium parts on VWs. Like the fan shroud, tranny cases.
Stan Wilder
www.engineceramics.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gnarlodious" <gnarlodious@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Use this for fire safetey... AND eliminate the fire hazard...


> Entity Craig Oda spoke thus:
>
> > How as the original padding attached?
> I think it is propped up using jam rods like the headliner is. After years
> of heat, vibration and moisture it droops down.
>
> > Otherwise, I would have to look at some type of glue, maybe
> > this foam that Gnarlie used.
> The foam is a great material but not fireproof. Don't use it if you want
> fire protection.
>
> -- Gnarlie
>
>
> >> Entity Craig Oda spoke thus:
> >>
> >>> I've got my transmission out of the van right now and there is a lot
> >>> of this old padding that is falling out on my driveway floor, face and
> >>> into my hair.  It is above the trans, on the firewall.  I'm thinking
> >>> of ripping this out and putting new stuff in there.  It already has a
> >>> big junk of padding missing.
> >> I propped up the padding and injected polyurethane foam behind it.
Driving
> >> now for 2 years with no loosening, I'm real pleased with the results.
Messy
> >> though during application, wear expendable clothes and cover your hair.
Once
> >> you inject don't move the padding or it collapses the foam. After it
hardens
> >> you can remove the props.
> >>
> >> Couldn't comment on the flammability though, this is a diesel.
> >>
> >> -- Gnarlie
> >>