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Date:         Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:45:22 -0700
Reply-To:     Malcolm Stebbins <mwstebbins@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Malcolm Stebbins <mwstebbins@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Camping and places to go the maritime provinces of Canada
Comments: To: Joy Hecht <jhecht@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
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From New England:

Joy: I'd suggest that you search the archives for (author) stebbins and (Subject) Scotia (and then Newfoundland) since 1 jan 1998 and you'll get most of what I have to say. If you are VERY adventuresome, and have time to get to Newfoundland, then there is a GREAT loop trip that goes north through Quebec and Labrador with ferries over to Newfoundland and ferries back to Nova Scotia and then ferries back to Maine. If you again search the archives for Stebbins and Newfoundland you will get what I have to say on that subject. here are my main posts (the road is now open).

http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0202D&L=vanagon&P=R18700 and http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0301A&L=vanagon&P=R5959 and http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0301A&L=vanagon&P=R13441 and

In July 2004 we did the trip from Wash DC to Halifax you can read our trip report at:

http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0407D&L=vanagon&P=R18106

We live in Halifax and my wife and I are both University profs at the VERY small Mt. St. Vincent U (nothing like MIT). You are welcome to stay with us (non-smoking, no pets, no drunks). At the least we can offer you a driveway and toilet/shower & internet.

I HIGHLY recommend that you purchase the Lonely Planet Canada's Maritime Provinces ISBN: 1740590236 and the Lonely Planet New England ASIN: 0864425708. After reading these you will know more about these areas than anyone on the list, except me of course :-)

There are MANY ways to do an Atlantic Canada trip. This trip can be a nice loop trip clockwise or counter-clockwise. I'll describe the clockwise trip:

Head up the Maine coast, in Freeport Maine there are many outlet stores (LLBean & the like). Then US 1 (past Portland) is slow but scenic in places. It is possible to cross into Canada where Maine and New Brunswick (NB) meet by the ocean. (Lubec Maine, Not at Calais). This will put you on some NB islands: Campobello and Grand Manan isle. Eventually you can make your way (via several ferries) to the NB mainland. St. Andrews by the Sea, is worth a look and there is a good camp ground right on the ocean in town (Kiwanis maybe). Going up the NB coast, take Highway 915 down to the Fundy Nat'l Park & Hopewell Rocks.

Here one can decide to go up through NB to Quebec’s Gaspe Penn. and, if one is so inclined the Quebec-Labrador-Newfoundland loop. I will leave this out of this discussion and assume that you are heading into NS & PEI.

When you enter Nova Scotia (NS) you can hop over to PEI on the bridge and then do PIE and come back to NS on the ferry from Wood Island to Pictou. This makes it a loop trip. If you skip PEI, you can just drive along the northern coast of NS while driving over the Cape Breton Island (North East, NS). A drive around the Cabot Trail and Cape Breton Highlands Nat'l Park is worth a drive and also a visit to Louisbourg Fort (Nat'l Park) is interesting (a working outdoor museum on the east coast of Cape Breton Island).

Now is a good time to decide if you are going to Newfoundland as the ferries leave from Sydney Mines on Cape Breton’s north shore. Take one ferry over and the other ferry back, that way it is a loop trip. While in Newfoundland be sure to visit the Gross Morne Natl Park and L'Anse Aux Meadows (both on the NW Nfld coast line). The law in Newfoundland is that the first 10 feet (or so) of coastline is public so you can stop and camp anywhere.

My preference is to NOT miss Newfoundland, as it is unspoiled beauty. PEI is spoiled (crass commercialism) flatland (but with some nice beaches).

So now it is time to head back home. So I'd suggest coming down the east coast of NS along highway 7 to Halifax, Visit us, and the picture perfect Peggy's Cove, then down along 'the south shore" where you can cut across to Kejimkujik Nat'l Park (nice canoeing and some wilderness camp sites out in the lake). Then you can either cross back into NB at Digby to St John, or continue south to NS's Yarmouth and take (an expensive) ferry to either Maine's Bar Harbor or Portland. Then it's up to you to get home.

Of course this could be done in reverse.

This trip will take you about a good month PLUS to do, unless you like driving 10 hours/day, day after day after day. Longer if you do the Quebec-Labrador-Newfoundland loop.

Get a hold of the AAA NE Campground and the one for Canada, and/or Woodall's Eastern Campground Directory and if you like KOA and/or Don Wright's Guide to Free Campgrounds: Eastern Edition ( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0937877409/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/102-5038717-0474524?v=glance&s=books&st=* )

If you like to “Stealth Camp” then the New Brunswick Atlas ISBN 1551094371; The Nova Scotia Atlas ISBN 0887805213 and Atlas of Newfoundland & Labrador ISBN 1550810006 will show you EVERY little side road that you can take to stealth camp in NB & NS & Nfld

So, you have your work cut out for you in the next little while to do your MIT research and plan a great trip. IT can take you 10 days or 10 weeks, it’s up to you.

I’m in Halifax and you are welcome to stay. Call us at 1-902-457-9499. OK? Malcolm & Patricia

There is a looming strike of CDN Nat’l park employees so you may get free camping at all Nat’l parks if you’re willing to cross a picket line.

I’ve taken all of the joy out you planning your own trip. If I do much more for you, I’ll be driving your van. Enjoy, Malcolm,

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