Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:06:15 -0700
Reply-To: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
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From: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
Subject: Re: Who Supports The List / The Money Has Already Been Spent
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Funny, other than your complaints about VWOA service policies, I never read
anything about your comments being USA specific.
We all thank you for, as you put it: "making all aware here of the truth ,
and the facts". Unfortunately, your truth is skewed and your facts are
opinions.
VW failed with the Vanagon?? If I remember correctly, VW sold quite a few
Vanagons during it's 11 year run in the USA. Does anyone out there have the
numbers?
Germany does have access to full size vans from several countries, including
the USA.
Guess what? Just like the US government, the German government charges
higher import tariffs on vans, trucks and other commercial vehicles.
Guess what? The US was the country who started these protectionist policies
to protect the domestic truck industry. The other countries had to follow
suit for competition reasons.
As for any shop being willing to work on any made in USA product... Not
here in Sacramento and not down in San Diego (where I'm originally from). I
grew up in the auto repair business, and I've managed, owned, and turned
wrenches in, my share of repair shops and can unequivocally state that a lot
of shops will not work on a POS vehicle, regardless of country of origin.
If you're that unhappy with your Vanagon and are unable find a good mechanic
or perform your own work, sell it and buy a Chevy. In the long run, you'll
be happier and we won't have to read your diatribes about how VW and
Vanagons suck anymore.
Happy Frydaye,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of Robert Cardo
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 3:25 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Who Supports The List / The Money Has Already Been Spent
Hi Jeff,
If you noticed I was mentioning how VW failed with the Vanagon here in
the good old USA.
I never mentioned any foreign country where any made in America product
wasn't imported or used.
Please take a moment and scroll through my total posting again to grasp
the whole thought, not just a portion of it as you forwarded back in
your message.
And more than likely this contributes to the immediate problem as I
mentioned in the note I contributed.
If Germany had access to full sized Van, products from GM, Ford, and
Dodge, VW probably wouldn't have had to produce an encore run of
Vanagon's for the tradesmen over there.
They wouldn't have cared or wanted any more of the high maintenance
vehicles. ( nor would they have spent the initial deutschmarks for
the over priced smaller cargo vans either)
I am upset VW won't or refuses to service a product they advertised, and
sold, made a profit on , and then tells the folks that bought them in so
many words" Your the fool that bought it, too bad, go away"
This doesn't happen with any made in USA vehicle.
Any dealer or smaller independent shop, anywhere will accept and will
work on any made in the USA vehicle regardless of what shape, size,
model, or year it may be, without an argument, hurt feelings, and duress
on the person that owns it.
I'm Apologize you missed some of the immediate thought in my posting.
RC
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