Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 19:04:00 -0400
Reply-To: Bike Florida <bikeflorida@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From: Bike Florida <bikeflorida@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Ebay trade gone wrong...
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I would refuse to leave feedback, this at the very minimum gives you the
safety of "eBay mutually assured self destruction". Meaning the other party
is at least reluctant to leave you negative feedback over the issue in fear
of receiving retaliatory feedback. If he does neg you, I would not neg him
back, you did back out of the deal. I would just respond to his feedback.
Keep in mind, that it cost in excess of $40.00 to run a car on eBay. I
suppose the decent thing would be to offer to cover his listing fees.
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
aircooled chris
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 6:37 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Ebay trade gone wrong...
I purchased my Vanagon westy online, having never seen it before or had
a mechanic in their area take a look and it worked out great.
A#1 reason I felt comfortable doing this:
I spoke at length with the seller prior to purchase. You can tell quite
a lot about what the vehicle is going to be like based on what the
seller is like and their own knowledge of the car and what it needs.
Just because you really want the car at a good price, doesnt mean you
should ignore that gut feeling that something doesnt quite feel right.
Just back out and keep looking.
cr
Jeffrey Schwaia wrote:
>These are very good points, especially #5. Talk to the seller. Get a feel
>for the seller's personality. Find out what he does for a living
>(unemployed or between jobs can be bad).
>
>I would also add one more to the list:
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>6) Make sure you can pick up the vehicle in person. This is your last
>chance to confirm that the seller's description was honest.
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>I have also sold several vehicles on eBay and have yet to have a bad
>experience. The buyers were very diligent. I had at least 3 phone
>conversations with the prospective buyers before they bid, and all except
>one picked up the vehicle in person.
>
>eBay is no different than any other marketplace, caveat emptor...
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>Cheers,
>
>Jeff
>www.vanagonparts.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
>Of Bruce Nadig
>Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 5:53 AM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Ebay trade gone wrong...
>
>
>The selling of vehicles or anything else on eBay isn't in an of itself bad.
>You just can't go into it blindly.
>
>1) Make sure that the seller has exceptionally good feedback
>2) Have the Vanagon inspected by a mechanic familiar with Vanagons before
>you bid (this is done at your expense)
>3) Ask for and carefully inspect all repair and maintenance records
>4) Have a CarFax history performed
>5) Contact the seller before you bid and speak with him on the phone (most
>should be willing to do this - it is times like this that the 2 hour drive
>time should come out)
>
>I have sold nine (that I can think of) vehicles on eBay. All sales have
gone
>well. Everyone that has left feedback has left positive feedback (getting
>folks to leave feedback can be like pulling teeth). If you do your homework
>you probably won't get burned.
>
>It isn't eBay that is bad. When deals go wrong it is usually as much the
>fault of the buyer for not doing his/her homework as it is the seller (for
>whatever reason).
>
>eBay is a great tool when used properly.
>
>Cheers,
>Bruce
>motorbruce
>motorbruce@hotmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
>>Reply-To: vw4x4@FYI.NET
>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>Subject: Re: Ebay trade gone wrong...
>>Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 07:20:00 -0400
>>
>>Stuff like this is why buying a car on E-bay is just foolish! To many
>>things
>>that you can not inspect a head of time. Sorry but I've warned the
>>list about this.
>> ERic
>>
>>Donald Baxter wrote:
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>>
>>>My Vanagon seller wrote me back:
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>>>
>>>As for friday, everything sounds good, I dont know if I will be able
>>>to be there for the final transaction. My father will probably be the
>>>one to be there, his name is Fred. If you're driving this back to
>>>Iowa take it a little bit slow. Let her rest every couple of hours,
>>>that's how Ive driven it and you should be good. You might want to
>>>get an oil change, the last time I changed it was about 2000 miles
>>>ago. How would an online account work for cutting me a check? I
>>>would trust it I just dont know how that works. As soon as payment is
>>>cleared I will send the title to you unless you would rather pick it
>>>here with the van.
>>>Thank you
>>>
>>>----------
>>>
>>>Does this sound as bad as I think it does? I don't have to let my
>>>Vanagon "rest" every two hours. I've backed out of the trade. Grrr.
>>>
>>>DB
>>>'85 GL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>---------------------------------------------
>>>Donald Baxter
>>>316 Ridgeview Avenue
>>>University Heights, Iowa 52246
>>>http://www.mindspring.com/~onanov
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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