Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 19:39:42 -0800
Reply-To: Jack <john.cook58@VERIZON.NET>
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From: Jack <john.cook58@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: bears burgling for food?
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Individual Bear Proof Containers.
Leon made a good point that no one had mentioned until now. That is that
bear proof containers ARE available for purchase. They're intended for
backpackers (required now in some areas) but can be used for car camping, of
course. Still expensive but prices should be coming down now that there is
competition. The ones I'm familiar with are not designed to hold an awful
lot but still worth looking into if you're going into a known problem area
without adequate facilities. Maybe they have larger ones now.
//Jack
Date sent: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 18:53:53 -0700
Send reply to: Leon <korkwood@WSHOST.NET>
From: Leon <korkwood@WSHOST.NET>
Subject: Re: bears burgling for food?
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> This topic generated lots of mail including one almost suggesting that
> we all take shotguns and kill "bad" bears...We should never forget that
> WE are the visitors in Bear Country
> having frequently camped in Sierras the problems are usualy limited to
> places with high concentration of visitors like Yosemite and Sequoia NP
> etc. I spend more time in much less visited (but just as beautiful to me)
> places and bears are wild there, never bothering people. Needless to say i
> never store food outside and insist that others camping nearby(it takes some
> persuasion sometimes)not to leave their food outside. Some people will
> absolutely not put food inside their fancy expensive SUV thinking bear will
> open it like a can. Like in Yosemite. Alternative? they keep food inside
> their tent thinking their vehicle is more valuable than they are!Or simply
> outside of tent inviting bear for dinner. When there aren't any lockers to
> put food in, the only realistic method of storing food is inside Vanagon.In
> coolers and closed boxes.It has to be closed and sealed so that odors are
> kept minimal. Most bears accustomed to human food are opportunists and will
> take only the the most accessible food. When backpacking the only way to keep
> your food for yourself is bearproof containers.In fact they are required on
> most popular Sierra trails. Leon 85 Subwagen
>
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 23:42:53 -0700, alan sinclair <anadem@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> > In places that have bears, warning signs say not to keep any food in
> > the car, with photos of vehicles which have been "can-opened" by
> > bears.
> >
> > How do list members handle this problem? How do we keep bears out of
> > our '81 westie bedroom? It wouldn't be fun to wake to a burgling
> > bear, nor to have a door pulled off.
> >
> > thanks for any advice
> > Alan
> > (off to the Sierras in a day or two, and hoping to keep food on-board)
> >
>
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