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Date:         Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:31:00 -0400
Reply-To:     vw4x4@FYI.NET
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Subject:      Re: Syncro front rotor life expectance
Comments: To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@worldnet.att.net>
In-Reply-To:  <000001c483bc$8f19a790$9561480c@home>
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I guess I'm not getting my question out just right here. Has anyone had severe rust on new syncro rotors after say 2 years, or so, so bad that they are junk? I have, and there is clear evidence that the materials in these rotors are poor quality, This is just like what we have experienced with brake in the early days. Anyone want to see a picture? I just check my records. These brake do have about 25,000 miles on them. Pads are about half warn down. That is average for me. Very good for this area. Most people can not get 20,000 out of any brakes in Pgh. My dad had a Honda accord. Every 8000 miles the brake were into the rotors. This was a poor design as a friend had the same problem. THis is clearly not the case with the syncro. I'm looking for other subjust to compare notes. Eric

Karl Wolz wrote:

>Eric, > >>From what I've read in this thread, it sounds like your complaint is >that the rotors are rusty - not that they are worn (my apologies if I've >misinterpreted your posts). > >Rotors are made of iron, which in practical use is always an alloy - >different elements are added to the iron to achieve hardness, etc. Iron >rusts when it gets wet. No way around that. Your salty roads should >increase that problem. > >Being heated (normal for brake rotors) accelerates the rusting - that's >simple physics. I've used rotors that were quite rusty. The first time >you hit the brakes, most of the rust is swept away. > >It would be pretty difficult to predict how long a pair of rotors will >last, not knowing the answers to questions like, "what kind of pads do >you use", "are your calipers in good shape", "do you tend to park in the >ocean" ;-), etc. > >If the rotors are truly worn out (you've checked them with a >micrometer), then I'd say that something is wrong (see above ideas). To >say that a list vendor is to blame is probably a bad call. Any list >vendor that I've dealt with has delivered top quality merchandise every >time. Any manufacturer can deliver a defective product (though I don't >see how with a rotor), but to suggest that any vendor would deliberately >supply second rate rotors is pretty harsh. > >If you haven't measured the thickness of your rotors, do so, and let us >know how worn they really are. A bit of rust is normal, and should >clean off with the first application of your brakes. > >Karl Wolz > > > > >


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