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Date:         Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:24:05 -0400
Reply-To:     Hans Achter <hansachter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Hans Achter <hansachter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Auto Trans Install - Take Out Engine?
Comments: To: Craig Oda <craigoda@GMAIL.COM>
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Craig, How about getting a second floor jack. You will probably find a whole bunch of good stuff you can do with a second one. I've appreciated having two many times, including situations like this. It's also easy to get a decent one locally like from Sears or maybe places like Costco. Alternatively, perhaps you have a friend who would lend you theirs for a short time. If you can borrow the friend to work it, the job might go pretty easily. -Hans

----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Oda" <craigoda@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:49 AM Subject: Auto Trans Install - Take Out Engine?

> For the last week I've been trying to fit my 150 pound automatic > transmission back into my van. I'm getting closer. However, I still > can't align the two studs on the engine bell housing with the holes on > bottom of the transmission. :-( > > tonight's problem was that the transmission was tilted a bit on the > plywood board I'm using as a platform, resulting in the holes not > being level with each other. One hole was about a half inch higher > than the other. I'm going to try and brace the trans on the plywood > with some additional wood, but I'm starting to think of what my other > options are. > > I'm considering taking the engine out. I took the engine out a year > ago and I was able to get it back in the van somehow. Does anyone > think this approach would be easier? About 2 years ago, my > transmission burned out on a dirt road by a nice lake and I was forced > to have a local mechanic throw in a rebuilt tranny for me. I know > that he took out the engine in order to replace the trans. At the > time, I thought it was because he didn't know that the tranny could be > taken out by itself. But, now I think that maybe he did know. The > mechanic's personal vehicle was a vanagon. Amazing coincidence in a > town that size. > > Well, this is option number one. it is not so appealing because I > don't want to drain the coolant from the cylinder heads and disconnect > all those coolant hoses. Right now, I've got the tranny cooler hoses > clamped up, but I'll soon run out of hose clamps and won't have enough > to clamp all the hoses if I drop the engine. If I go this route, > should I reconnect the tranny and the engine while it is out of the > van and drop in the engine/tranny system as a single unit, or should I > install the tranny carrier bolts, then bolt the engine onto that? I'm > thinking that it might be easier to assemble the tranny and engine out > of the van and then drop in the entire unit. (I have no experience > with this). > > Option two is to buy a tranny jack adapter from Harbor Freight. I'm > probably going to order this anyway for future use. Maybe it can be > used as a platform to take out the engine?? If anyone has one of > these, let me know how useful it is. . > > However, I'm not sure if it will get here in time to be useful. I'm > also not sure if it will help with the range of adjustments that I > need for the job. > > I'm currently using a platform made out of plywood that consists of a > base plate that bolts onto the jack base hole and allows free movement > side to side. The plywood base plate holds a piece of plumbing pipe > that serves as a roller to allow free movement of the trans front to > back. A second piece of plywood attaches to the plumbing pipe > roller with metal holders that function as bearings. The top piece > of plywood has holes in it for chains to secure the tranny and prevent > slipping. With this setup, I can easily move the tranny into position > below the van and jack it up the proper height. I'm running into > problems aligning the bolts because I can't roll and hold the trans in > place. I am also have no means to lock the front and back position > into place. Though, I may try to modify some C-Clamps for this. > > I'm going to try again tomorrow. However, I am hoping to collect some > advice on the idea of taking out the engine and connecting the engine > and trans together outside of the van. > > Thanks. >


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