Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:51:55 -0700
Reply-To: Doug in Calif <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
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From: Doug in Calif <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
Subject: Re: bears burgling for food?
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I find this thread pretty interesting, I did go to the some of the links
provided and its amazing to see now that you can have your "vehicle
impounded" for committing "such a crime". The bear lockers sound like good
ideas but the problem some have already stated with them is that they are
not big enough, not enough of them, they are not refrigerated, (what am I
supposed to do with the stuff in my propane fridge with no ice?) Now I have
to bring an ice chest and ice too? You better not forget the air freshener
hangin from your mirror. "oops just lost your rig and its impound time".
This is BS in my opinion. What about the stove in your rig? They say your
child seat should be removed because it has "residual food" on it. what
about the stove. how about the fabric in the tent from my last egg breakfast
in the westy?
I feel there should be more aggressive measures taken to make this a very
bad experience for the bears. Let the campers shoot them with bean bags and
their own 12ga and pepper spray them big time. We need some good ole red
neck hunters that enjoy giving them bears a shot in the rump, just for the
sport of it. As usual, our pantywaist society has made another bad situation
worse by "being nice and considerate".
I did not see anything on the sites about taking your own initiative and
using bear spray or a "thumper" round which I carry in my 12 ga.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Tuovinen" <mst@AK.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: bears burgling for food?
> Addendum re: "Best plan, assuming there are trees around (not too many
bears on the
> desert) is to throw a rope over a limb and haul your food bag
up into
> the air out of reach. This is common practice in back country
camping."
>
> Whether or not there are trees around there should be a minimum of several
hundred feet between your campsite and where you cook and/or store food,
toiletries, etc.
>
> " If you are going to keep food in a tent you are sleeping
in, keep a
> good sharp knife at your side so you can cut an exit door
in the tent
> wall opposite the entrance door the bears claws have cut."
>
> If you choose to keep food, toiletries, etc, in you tent then this is good
advice. Or you can just wait and the bear will be more then happy to make a
second opening for you. We plan ahead and already have a tent with two door
openings.
>
> Mark in AK
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: don spence <dspence@OANET.COM>
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:48 pm
> Subject: Re: bears burgling for food?
>
> > If you are going to keep food in a tent you are sleeping in, keep a
> > good sharp knife at your side so you can cut an exit door in the tent
> > wall opposite the entrance door the bears claws have cut.
> >
> > Best plan, assuming there are trees around (not too many bears on the
> > desert) is to throw a rope over a limb and haul your food bag up into
> > the air out of reach. This is common practice in back country camping.
> >
> > Up on the roof is better than in a westy. Food and people space don't
> > mix in bear country.
> >
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