Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:39:44 -0700
Reply-To: Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
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From: Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Subject: Re: Need graywater tank ideas
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I wouldn't doubt that it's a consequence of evolving water quality laws;
here in CA, just about every aspect of waste water of all types is coming
under scrutiny. What you do as an individual may mean next to nothing, but a
thousand next-to-nothings can add up to a real problem. Legal
pressure/enforcement varies greatly with location, mostly depending on
population density and proximity to enforcement agency offices. : )
I run a pressure washing business, and waste water issues are the pretty
much the single largest liability I face.
It's legitimate concern for the most part, they're just beginning to get a
good picture of just how interrelated a lot of these water systems are and
the effects they can have on each other.
Have y'all read about the 'dead zone' in the Caribbean? Fertilizer runoff
from Mississippi Basin farms is taking the oxygen out of the water and
destroying the fishing industry there- a thousand miles away.
This crap going on with the Yucca Mt. nuclear waste storage is just plain
insane and scary. Nuts.
CIA,
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Elliott" <j.michael.elliott@ADELPHIA.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Need graywater tank ideas
> Mark Edwards wrote:
>
> >>>heater installed in the 84 Westy camper van and the fellow there
pointed
> >>>out that my usual technique of sticking a bucket under the sink drain,
> >>>is not exactly legal.
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >A non-westy owner looks at this and doesn't understand what is being done
> >that is considered to be illegal. What is the problem, and what kind of
> >law is being violated by using a bucket? Is such a violation unique to a
> >Westy? I will save my cynical, smarmy remarks until I understand better
> >what the issue is :-)
> >
> >
> >
> Hi non-Westy owner. I have no idea what the relevant laws might be. The
> grizzled fellow at the RV shop has a nice camper that he goes camping
> with a lot, in the company of his wife and several other grizzled
> fellows who apparently do a lot of drinking. We also talked about easy
> methods to avoid middle of the night trips to the urinal. I favor the
> larger Gatorade bottles, he favors liquid laundry detergent bottles,
> which do have the advantage of not being transparent.
>
> But back to the gray water issue. He said, and I roughly quote, "Yessir,
> 'bout the only place you can use a bucket or just let the sink water
> fall on the ground these days is the desert. In state and National
> Forest Park campgrounds you can't do that anymore."
>
> In further detail, he said that not only does the gray water need to go
> into an enclosed container, but any venting of said container must
> extend to above the roof line of a camper. He held his hand up to
> demonstrate. Said he had added a tube that he lashes to the side of his
> camper for this purpose.
>
> Fact or fiction? Beats me. Just thought I'd see if there was an E-Z
> method to accomplish this goal to avoid having to camp without using the
> sink in the Westy.
> --
>
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 VW Type 2 / 84 Westy: A poor but proud race.
> KG6RCR
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