Date:         Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:03:45 -0400
Reply-To:     Tim Demarest <tim.demarest@POBOX.COM>
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From:         Tim Demarest <tim.demarest@POBOX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Need graywater tank ideas
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I suspect a lot depends on whether the official looking at your rig sees it
as an RV or not, and is a reasonable human being, or an authority junkie.

I certainly don't see any difference in dumping a bucket after washing up
when tent camping, or after pulling the same bucket out from under my
westie... I use a minimal amount of bio-degradable soap in either case.

Of course, I do a lot of my camping locally in New Jersey, where (sadly) we
have bigger problems with our groundwater than dish soap.

Tim

At 03:26 PM 8/19/2004 -0600, Mark Edwards wrote:
>In <004601c4862c$de841e60$6600a8c0@pacbell.net>, on 08/19/04
>    at 01:41 PM, Al Knoll <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET> said:
>
> >IIRC some camping areas such as the Colorado River and Green River areas
> >near Moab UT REQUIRE full self containment including having a working
> >portapottie (thetford 135 works) and a closed greywater system.  Ideally
> >according to the NPS peace officer the greywater tank should be attached
> >to the vehicle.  (they let me off this time).  So...put a tee in the
> >drain after the trap and run a hose to a container inside the vehicle.
> >Meets the letter of the law.
>
>Hi Al,
>
>I just want to clarify, or converse, but not sound like I am arguing.
>
>Is there some difference in the application of the rule/law, wherein
>someone who doesn't have a tank is exempt? Did I ask that right? :-) I
>camp in Moab/Canyonlands area often, and know of no such rule, not to say
>I know everything. Do you suppose the difference is in having a tank or
>not in the first place? Tent trailers, and tent/van campers all use
>buckets to catch water from washing dishes and hands, then we dump the
>buckets.
>
>All I can think of is the NPS is telling folks to use what equipment you
>have, and if you are not outfitted with a grey water tank, a bucket is
>okay. If I am anywhere near close on that, then its really stupid to get
>after someone who has a tank that doesn't work, and is doing the right
>thing by using a bucket.
>
>Am I reading this all the right way?
>
>Mark