Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:33:53 -0800
Reply-To: Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
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From: Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
Subject: Re: Need graywater tank ideas
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Tim,
Maybe in New Jersey they should require the use of dish soap without a gray water tank so that the soap can clean up some of the other problems.
Ok, ok, that was bad. Now back to our regular scheduled program of bears and coffee.
Mark in AK
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Demarest <tim.demarest@POBOX.COM>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2004 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: Need graywater tank ideas
> I suspect a lot depends on whether the official looking at your
> rig sees it
> as an RV or not, and is a reasonable human being, or an authority
> junkie.
> I certainly don't see any difference in dumping a bucket after
> washing up
> when tent camping, or after pulling the same bucket out from under my
> westie... I use a minimal amount of bio-degradable soap in either
> case.
> Of course, I do a lot of my camping locally in New Jersey, where
> (sadly) we
> have bigger problems with our groundwater than dish soap.
>
> Tim
>
> At 03:26 PM 8/19/2004 -0600, Mark Edwards wrote:
> >In <004601c4862c$de841e60$6600a8c0@pacbell.net>, on 08/19/04
> > at 01:41 PM, Al Knoll <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET> said:
> >
> > >IIRC some camping areas such as the Colorado River and Green
> River areas
> > >near Moab UT REQUIRE full self containment including having a
> working> >portapottie (thetford 135 works) and a closed greywater
> system. Ideally
> > >according to the NPS peace officer the greywater tank should be
> attached> >to the vehicle. (they let me off this time). So...put
> a tee in the
> > >drain after the trap and run a hose to a container inside the
> vehicle.> >Meets the letter of the law.
> >
> >Hi Al,
> >
> >I just want to clarify, or converse, but not sound like I am arguing.
> >
> >Is there some difference in the application of the rule/law, wherein
> >someone who doesn't have a tank is exempt? Did I ask that right?
> :-) I
> >camp in Moab/Canyonlands area often, and know of no such rule,
> not to say
> >I know everything. Do you suppose the difference is in having a
> tank or
> >not in the first place? Tent trailers, and tent/van campers all use
> >buckets to catch water from washing dishes and hands, then we
> dump the
> >buckets.
> >
> >All I can think of is the NPS is telling folks to use what
> equipment you
> >have, and if you are not outfitted with a grey water tank, a
> bucket is
> >okay. If I am anywhere near close on that, then its really stupid
> to get
> >after someone who has a tank that doesn't work, and is doing the
> right>thing by using a bucket.
> >
> >Am I reading this all the right way?
> >
> >Mark
>
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