Date:         Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:17:23 -0700
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From:         Jeff at Vanagonparts <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
Subject:      Re: I can't wait!  -  Almost Friday
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Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Bad timing.  Lest you forget, tomorrow's Friday, i.e.,
anything goes day.  We can talk about bears, beers, bears with beers, beers
with bears on them, bare bears, bare beers, bears drinking beers in our
Vanagons (RVC), etc, etc, you get the idea.

Perhaps I should move my home brewery into my Vanagon.  Think about the
possibilities for cross posting beer comments with true Vanagon content.  I
could even drive Vanabrewery to the Sierras and camp in bear country.  Even
more posts possible.

Just kidding of course.  Hell, it's better than another thread about
tires...

Thank God Burning Man is only 10 days away.  I need a week away from
computers/technology.

Cheers All,

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of Eric Zeno
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:26 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: I can't wait!


If this crap keeps up, I will give up on this list server...
I can not longer spend the time weeding thru all htis crap.
This has ripped apart the vanagon community.  Jim, please
bring Gerry back as he was years ago....
                          amen!

            Eric                   86-VW4x4
            vw4x4@fyi.net          86-SS Syncro
            Pittsburgh, PA USA     1936-Chrysler
                                   92-Jetta GWC
            www.fyi.net/~vw4x4/vw4x4.htm

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Mark Edwards wrote:

> I thank all those who weighed in on the grey water thing. Glad to know I
> am not doing anything illegal by using a bucket in my camping endeavors
> :-)
>
> I love to talk about the bears and the camping, but I also think enough is
> enough.
>
> As usual, Westys present a unique perspective, as they are really tents
> when sitting with the top up, so rules of tent camping have to apply. In
> most bear places, put down the top and store your food inside and all will
> be well. There are campgrounds in Glacier, Yellowstone, and GTNP where I
> assume a Westy would not be allowed to camp, if the top is popped up,
> although I have never taken the time to ask, or look around. Probably be a
> nightmare trying to explain it all to one of those AARP-customer service
> folks who run the campgrounds :-)
>
> FWIW, yes, CA seems to be out of control, and needs to take some serious
> action to control the bears. Just another reason I have no plans to ever
> go there again. Yellowstone and Teton used to have a bear problem bit like
> that as well, although there is more space there to work with bears and
> other animals, so good luck to them. Took a major commitment and mucho
> bucks and effort to get it under control tho. Don't know if Yosemite-ites
> have the stomach for such a thing. I have never had a hankering to see
> Yosemite either. Its been a nightmare ever since I can remember. :-)
>
> I am sorry there is so much anger and hatred between people who have such
> differing agendas. Makes it impossible to get anything done. I understand
> Doug's position, and in my heart, I agree with much of it, but there has
> to be a better way to express it.
>
> A wise man once said "government is not the solution, government is the
> problem" and in nearly every instance I can think of, government screwed
> up just about everything they get involved in. Can't think of a way to
> spin that thought into a vanagon comment tho, so I guess its time to move
> along, as we won't solve that problem here, (or anywhere else for that
> matter <g>)
>
> Mark
>