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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:30:51 -0700
Reply-To:     David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From:         David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject:      Re: [Syncro] dual battery isolator
Comments: To: Westyman <syncrowestytd@mindspring.com>,
          VWVANFULLTIMERS <VWVANFULLTIMERS@yahoogroups.com>,
          Syncro list <syncro@yahoogroups.com>
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I can't see an issue with a 70A relay load wise as your alternator is 90A and only on a good day. I use a generic Bosch 40A relay for my 2nd battery in my TriStar and I have never had an issue and I have a 120A alternator. Charging battery from a dead flat doesn't make the relay nor the 2x12ga wire running to the battery hot or even warm to the touch. I think the relay is the simplest and probably the most effective of designs. The diode isolators are not good in my opinion as they introduce a 0.7V loss in the system over both batteries. The computerized isolators that give the starting battery and deep cycle the voltage they want to see is the best bet, but expensive and really I think the deep cycle will charge fine on the relay with an alternator designed to charge a starting battery. 1000s of fishermen driving home charging their deep cycles on their F150 can't be that wrong.

David Marshall

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-----Original Message----- From: Westyman [mailto:syncrowestytd@mindspring.com] Sent: August 22, 2004 10:15 PM To: Vanagon list; VWVANFULLTIMERS; Syncro list Subject: [Syncro] dual battery isolator

Hope this doesn't start a whole new argument on the subject, but I seek input from those who may have done this:

I'm installing a group 29 deep cycle battery as my main camping battery in my Westy [no, it won't fit under the front seats!] to power my new 12-volt Norcold DC-0040 fridge. Yes, I finally had enough of dealing with the unreliability of the old Dometic! What I'm concerned about is the different charge rate required between the deep cycle and the main battery. The main will likely never be drained below 75-percent, but the deep cycle may become very drained, and often. I currently have a 70-amp relay connected as in the stock Westfalia method for dual batteries. Will that work 'OK', or do I need to use some other method or isolator? It seems to me that the alternator would not charge two batteries of different types and levels of drainage efficiently. Comments? Thanks.

Karl Mullendore

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