Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:15:49 -0700
Reply-To:     gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      emission ethics
Comments: cc: jhecht@ALUM.MIT.EDU
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Joy,
   We need no ethical guidance on this list when it
comes to emission checks.    If you really push this
issue you would not be on the vanagon list at all but
you would be on the low polluting eurovan list.
There are many reasons people choose to handle a
vanagon problem the way they do.   We need to take
care not to judge them on this action.   Two hundred
dollars may make the difference whether they get
enough to eat or not.
   I for one would like to know if advancing the
engine or retarding the engine will decrease NOX?
I thought an engine runs hotter when it is retarded
and thus NOX would be higher?   So what do you think?
                   regards, gary
Date:    Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:25:39 -0400
From:    Joy Hecht <jhecht@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Failed Emissions Check

Hi all,

I know it's nice to pass your emissions test without
any expense, but
you
know, those emissions tests are there for a reason,
and it's not simply
to
hassle us.  NOX emissions are harmful to all of us,
and to the natural
environment of which we are one small part - those
controls are there
to
protect people and animals and plants, not to make the
government feel
powerful.

I think we all enjoy the opportunity that our vans
give us to travel
and
experience the environment. Is it really acceptable to
cheat on your
emissions tests to save yourself a couple of hundred
bucks, but pass on
the
harm you cause to the environment to hurt other
people?

I'd be disappointed if most of the people in this
community felt it
was.



Joy






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