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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:23:57 -0700
Reply-To:     Jim Thompson <jim@KARMANNGHIA.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Thompson <jim@KARMANNGHIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: LVC: Passat feedback
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I would tend to agree what the VW guy said about Chevron is BOGUS. Correct me if I'm wrong, daft or just out of touch (well, it is Friday :-), but isn't Techron/Techroline, Chevron's gasoline additive approved by BMW for use *against* valve/valve seat deposits for the past several years? Granted, you don't often find an automotive manufacturer that endorses an additive, but it seems I read this somewhere (maybe in a dream?).

When I was was living in Redding, NorCalif in the last decade we didn't have much in the way of Chevron Stations nearby (lotsa Arcos, BPs, Shells, Unocal76s, USAs, UltraMars [Beacon]), etc., so I always bought and used a bottle of Techron from the FLAPS every 10k on the recommendation of my VW mechanic friend Chuck who operates a local authorized Audi/VW Service Facility (they don't have a dealer in Redding)(Oasis Motors). Never had any kinda problem with the stuff.

Jim Thompson 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" oldvolkshome@earthlink.net jim@karmannghia.com http://www.oldvolkshome.com *********************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markus Mumper" <mumper@USA.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:41 AM Subject: Re: LVC: Passat feedback

"My wife has a 2001 4 Motion Automatic six cylinder Passat (we call it the Piss Ant).

In about 25,000 miles of easy driving it has been to the VW Dealer at least five times with the same difficulty - it wouldn't start. It would turn over just fine all day long but would never catch - time to call AAA.

These are all of the parts that have been replaced under warranty: 1. All the coils - twice! (there are two cylinders per coil). 2. Spark plug wires. 3. Fuel pump. 4. Computer.

This non-starting occurs without any pattern that we can discern, and sometimes it will start after several attempts, run really roughly for about thirty seconds and then everything is fine.

The last time this happened (about six months ago) VW asked my wife what gasoline she typically uses - she answered Chevron. The VW guy went "Aha - that's your problem, Chevron gas leaves deposits on the valves (seats or guides? he did not say)that prevents them from closing, thus no compression and no running, this happens with Chevy's too". I think this is completely bogus but we have since switched gasoline brands (anything other than Chevron) and this difficulty has not re-occurred?!?!?!?!?!

Anyway - my overall impressions of the car: 1. Not reliable (less so then my "87 Westy, she always starts!) 2. Average handling. 3. Below average acceleration. 4. Comfortable. 5. Looks pretty good. 6. Gets about 25mpg city and freeway driving combined.

Unfortunately my wife and I drive our cars until they die so we may have the Passat for a long time, I would not buy one again.

Markus


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