Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:39:55 -0700
Reply-To: Vince S <gipsyflies@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Vince S <gipsyflies@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Interior lighting for the vanagon LED and CCF link to the new
fridges
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It appears it all depends on the specific model. Many marine
refrigeration uses sea (lake or river) water for cooling as it would be
most efficient. For smaller units then tend to rely on air cool as the
extra plumbing will be too complex. The smallest Danfoss compress being
BD35F is arround $500 and it does not come with the evaporator or
condensor. Very spendy. There are other similar compressors that are
cheaper in use in many portable auto units. I suspect the quality of
those are lessor.
- Vince
http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net
1989 Vanagon GL Camper
1993 Mazda Miata
1996 Land Rover Discovery
2005 Mini Cooper S (almost here)
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Rocket J Squirrel
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:11 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Interior lighting for the vanagon LED and CCF link to the
new fridges
Unless I am mis-reading Indel's online literature, their line of
Isotherm reefers depend on cold seawater as a place to dump heat. "The
Isotherm SP system is a totally new technique that is cooled directly by
the surrounding water."
--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 VW Type 2 / 84 Westy: A poor but proud race.
KG6RCR
Joe Federici wrote:
> I completely disagree. Newer AC/DC fridges use very little power. I
> can run mine and recharge with solar for days. The only down side they
> are pricey.
>
> check out http://www.indelmarineusa.com/ the CR65 will fit in a westy.
>
> JFF
> On Aug 24, 2004, at 3:04 PM, Vince S wrote:
>
> The Dometic gas absorbtion refrigerator may be an old technology. It
> is still the most viable method of keeping food cold in a RV/camper.
> There is more than efficiency to consider such as run time.
>
> Compressor based dc refrigerators have made significant improvement in
> the last few years benefited from dc motor technology. However at 3A
> you will not have very long run time and will need to recharge the
> battery. It will work well if you plan to camp where there are shore
> utilities. You won't be able to run the refrigerator for more than a
> day and the battery will be totally drained. It is very hard to beat
> the long operation duration of the propane even it is significantly
> less (about
> 3x) inefficient.
>
> I am quite happy with the factory 3-way refrigerator. The only
> complaint I have with it is Westfalia should have provided external
> intake and exhaust vents for the heat generated instead of circulating
> it within the cabin. This makes for very hot interior temperature in
> the summer. I suspected this was not done probably due to VW
> engineers' objection.
>
>
> - Vince
>
> http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net
> 1989 Vanagon GL Camper
> 1993 Mazda Miata
> 1996 Land Rover Discovery
> 2005 Mini Cooper S (almost here)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Doug in Calif
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 11:37 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Fw: Interior lighting for the vanagon LED and CCF link to the
> new fridges
>
>
> Sorry try this link for the fridges.
> You can also find these on e/bay now at a better price.
>
> http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/horizontal-item.jh
> tm
>
l?id=0019192515473a&navAction=jump&navCount=0&indexId=&podId=0019192&cat
> alogCode=2UE&parentId=&parentType=&rid=&cmCat=search&hasJS=true
>
>
> Doug
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doug in Calif
> To: vanagon.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 11:25 AM
> Subject: Interior lighting for the vanagon LED and CCF
>
>
> Has anybody been playing around with CCF cold cathode flourescent
> technology for the vanagons?
>
> I have been doing some lighting research and found out the LED
> technology only produces about 23 lumens per watt. Where the CCF
> produces in the 80 lumens per watt range.
>
> I am very reluctant to run two batteries in my westy conversion. I
> have done it in the past in my other vanagons and feel it was overkill
> for my use. I am now considering running a deep cycle marine battery
> which I can buy locally in the main battery compartment and just be
> careful to not run it down
>
> Also I have seen some really efficient fridge's have come onto the
> market that will literally run off your battery and freeze your beer
> if your not careful. I am not all that impressed with the westy fridge
> and have not yet cut the vent hole in the side of my conversion as I
> may consider going with newer technology.
>
> Here's a link to the CCF lighting.
>
> http://www.cetsolar.com/ccf.htm
>
> Here's a link to the new technology refers
>
> http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/horizontal-item.jh
> tm
> l?
>
> Doug
>