Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:59:04 -0700
Reply-To: Rocket J Squirrel <j.michael.elliott@ADELPHIA.NET>
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From: Rocket J Squirrel <j.michael.elliott@ADELPHIA.NET>
Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life?
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What's a clean way to cut the posts?
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 VW Type 2 / 84 Westy: A poor but proud race.
KG6RCR
Vince S wrote:
>We all have a different perspective on what ruining is. Cutting the top
>posts for me is no big deal if you can repair the connection. I careless
>about the warranty. I cannot remember when have I ever use the warranty
>on a battery. Cutting the seat swivel is a big deal for me - something I
>will never do unless there is no alternative.
>
>
>
>- Vince
>
>http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net
>1989 Vanagon GL Camper
>1993 Mazda Miata (for sale)
>1996 Land Rover Discovery
>2005 Mini Cooper S
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>Of Tom Sinclair
>Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 5:31 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life?
>
>
>I don't think you have to cut the posts off--in fact
>you could ruin the battery doing that. You have to cut
>notches in the seat swivel so the posts will pass
>through when laying the Optima on its side with the
>posts facing the front of the van.
>
>Tom
>
>
>--- Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>
>
>>in order to install an optima into a westy with
>>swivel seats, the terminals
>>on top must be cut off. That is of course if you are installing it
>>under the front seat.
>>
>>
>>
>>Chris DeLong
>>Fine Tuning
>>206.522.5503
>>www.finetuningperformance.com
>>Seattle, WA USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Vince S <gipsyflies@COMCAST.NET>
>>>Reply-To: Vince S <gipsyflies@COMCAST.NET>
>>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life?
>>>Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 13:40:29 -0700
>>>
>>>Mike,
>>>
>>>I don't know if all Vanagon Westy with shivel seats
>>>
>>>
>>are the same though
>>
>>
>>>I will be surprised if they aren't. Looks like Sean
>>>
>>>
>>has a 90 Vanagon.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>- Vince
>>>
>>>http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net
>>>1989 Vanagon GL Camper
>>>1993 Mazda Miata (for sale)
>>>1996 Land Rover Discovery
>>>2005 Mini Cooper S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Vanagon Mailing List
>>>
>>>
>>[mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>>
>>
>>>Of Michael Elliott
>>>Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:28 PM
>>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life?
>>>
>>>
>>>What?!? Because I have shriveled seats I have to
>>>
>>>
>>hack and chop the
>>
>>
>>>yellowtop Optima that I just ordered??? Rats. I
>>>
>>>
>>thought the thing would
>>
>>
>>>fit on its side.
>>>
>>>I was /wondering/ why the pictures on Sean's site
>>>(http://www.vgonman.com/auxbat.htm) showed so much
>>>
>>>
>>room under the
>>
>>
>>>seats!!
>>>
>>>Grumble, grumble.
>>>
>>>Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
>>>71 VW Type 2 / 84 Westy: A poor but proud race.
>>>KG6RCR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Vince S wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bill,
>>>>
>>>>I assume your 87 Westy has shrivel seats. Given
>>>>
>>>>
>>that the only car size
>>
>>
>>>>battery that will fit in the aux battery
>>>>
>>>>
>>compartment is the Group 41
>>
>>
>>>>battery just like the one under the passenger
>>>>
>>>>
>>seat. This battery is the
>>
>>
>>>>easiest to install it fits like a pair of glove.
>>>>
>>>>
>>I used this for years.
>>
>>
>>>>You can order the battery hold down bar from VW
>>>>
>>>>
>>or find one from a
>>
>>
>>>>wrecked Vanagon.
>>>>
>>>>The drawback of the group 41 battery is it is a
>>>>
>>>>
>>starting battery and
>>
>>
>>>>down work well if you draw the battery down very
>>>>
>>>>
>>low. On the flip side
>>
>>
>>>>is you can get them so cheap so that may not
>>>>
>>>>
>>matter.
>>
>>
>>>>Many folks including myself installed the Optima
>>>>
>>>>
>>yellow top (deep
>>
>>
>>>>cycle) or red top (good starting battery) but it
>>>>
>>>>
>>requires some
>>
>>
>>>>modification to the battery which can be a lot of
>>>>
>>>>
>>work. Vanagon without
>>
>>
>>>>the Shrivel seats can fit the Optima on it's side
>>>>
>>>>
>>which requires
>>
>>
>>>>securing the battery so the positive terminal
>>>>
>>>>
>>does not short out to the
>>
>>
>>>>chassis. Either of the Optima battery performs
>>>>
>>>>
>>significantly better
>>
>>
>>>>than the group 41 due to the spiral wound glass
>>>>
>>>>
>>fabric construction.
>>
>>
>>>>I have a page on my site about the modification I
>>>>
>>>>
>>have to perform.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>- Vince
>>>>
>>>>http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net
>>>>1989 Vanagon GL Camper
>>>>1993 Mazda Miata (for sale)
>>>>1996 Land Rover Discovery
>>>>2005 Mini Cooper S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Vanagon Mailing List
>>>>
>>>>
>>[mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>>
>>
>>>>Of William Alexander
>>>>Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 7:35 AM
>>>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Forgive me if I'm asking about a common knowledge
>>>>
>>>>
>>question - but is
>>
>>
>>>>there a preferred battery to buy for the aux
>>>>
>>>>
>>battery space under the
>>
>>
>>>>seat - I keep hearing mention that normal
>>>>
>>>>
>>batteries won't fit there? I
>>
>>
>>>>definitely plan on adding one to mine but am not
>>>>
>>>>
>>sure which battery to
>>
>>
>>>>purchase.
>>>>
>>>>A second similar question on a different subject:
>>>>
>>>>Is there a popular heater of some sort that folks
>>>>
>>>>
>>use to generate heat
>>
>>
>>>>inside the van on cold nights? some small
>>>>
>>>>
>>kerosene heater or something
>>
>>
>>>>like that?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the help
>>>>
>>>>William Alexander
>>>>Roanoke, VA
>>>>1987 Westy - searching for a name
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Sep 6, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Vince S wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>>Just returned back from a back to back trips,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>first into the Gorge
>>
>>
>>>>>then to Southern Oregon. When I was in the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>Eastern Gorge amoung 25 or
>>
>>
>>>>>so vehicles in the state park there were 8
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>Vanagon Westfalia. At
>>
>>
>>>>>Pistol River sailing spot there were 3 among 12
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>vehicles! The weather
>>
>>
>>>>>is cooler now making very comfortable camping in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>the Westy. Even got
>>
>>
>>>>>to use the furnace in the cool morning a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>For a few years I had only the primary battery.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>Those were the years I
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>didn't have all the modern electronics as I do
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>now. With one battery
>>
>>
>>>>>you really have to be sure it is in good
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>condition and secondly use it
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>very sparingly and leave a lot of safety margin.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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