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Date:         Tue, 7 Sep 2004 01:53:16 +0000
Reply-To:     Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life?
Comments: To: j.michael.elliott@ADELPHIA.NET
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hacksaw. if your really good you can use a sawzall. ;)

Chris DeLong Fine Tuning 206.522.5503 www.finetuningperformance.com Seattle, WA USA

>From: Rocket J Squirrel <j.michael.elliott@ADELPHIA.NET> >Reply-To: Rocket J Squirrel <j.michael.elliott@ADELPHIA.NET> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life? >Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:59:04 -0700 > >What's a clean way to cut the posts? > >Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott >71 VW Type 2 / 84 Westy: A poor but proud race. >KG6RCR > > > >Vince S wrote: > >>We all have a different perspective on what ruining is. Cutting the top >>posts for me is no big deal if you can repair the connection. I careless >>about the warranty. I cannot remember when have I ever use the warranty >>on a battery. Cutting the seat swivel is a big deal for me - something I >>will never do unless there is no alternative. >> >> >> >>- Vince >> >>http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net >>1989 Vanagon GL Camper >>1993 Mazda Miata (for sale) >>1996 Land Rover Discovery >>2005 Mini Cooper S >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >>Of Tom Sinclair >>Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 5:31 PM >>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life? >> >> >>I don't think you have to cut the posts off--in fact >>you could ruin the battery doing that. You have to cut >>notches in the seat swivel so the posts will pass >>through when laying the Optima on its side with the >>posts facing the front of the van. >> >>Tom >> >> >>--- Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> >> >>>in order to install an optima into a westy with >>>swivel seats, the terminals >>>on top must be cut off. That is of course if you are installing it >>>under the front seat. >>> >>> >>> >>>Chris DeLong >>>Fine Tuning >>>206.522.5503 >>>www.finetuningperformance.com >>>Seattle, WA USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: Vince S <gipsyflies@COMCAST.NET> >>>>Reply-To: Vince S <gipsyflies@COMCAST.NET> >>>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life? >>>>Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 13:40:29 -0700 >>>> >>>>Mike, >>>> >>>>I don't know if all Vanagon Westy with shivel seats >>>> >>>> >>>are the same though >>> >>> >>>>I will be surprised if they aren't. Looks like Sean >>>> >>>> >>>has a 90 Vanagon. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>- Vince >>>> >>>>http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net >>>>1989 Vanagon GL Camper >>>>1993 Mazda Miata (for sale) >>>>1996 Land Rover Discovery >>>>2005 Mini Cooper S >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Vanagon Mailing List >>>> >>>> >>>[mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >>> >>> >>>>Of Michael Elliott >>>>Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:28 PM >>>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life? >>>> >>>> >>>>What?!? Because I have shriveled seats I have to >>>> >>>> >>>hack and chop the >>> >>> >>>>yellowtop Optima that I just ordered??? Rats. I >>>> >>>> >>>thought the thing would >>> >>> >>>>fit on its side. >>>> >>>>I was /wondering/ why the pictures on Sean's site >>>>(http://www.vgonman.com/auxbat.htm) showed so much >>>> >>>> >>>room under the >>> >>> >>>>seats!! >>>> >>>>Grumble, grumble. >>>> >>>>Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott >>>>71 VW Type 2 / 84 Westy: A poor but proud race. >>>>KG6RCR >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Vince S wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Bill, >>>>> >>>>>I assume your 87 Westy has shrivel seats. Given >>>>> >>>>> >>>that the only car size >>> >>> >>>>>battery that will fit in the aux battery >>>>> >>>>> >>>compartment is the Group 41 >>> >>> >>>>>battery just like the one under the passenger >>>>> >>>>> >>>seat. This battery is the >>> >>> >>>>>easiest to install it fits like a pair of glove. >>>>> >>>>> >>>I used this for years. >>> >>> >>>>>You can order the battery hold down bar from VW >>>>> >>>>> >>>or find one from a >>> >>> >>>>>wrecked Vanagon. >>>>> >>>>>The drawback of the group 41 battery is it is a >>>>> >>>>> >>>starting battery and >>> >>> >>>>>down work well if you draw the battery down very >>>>> >>>>> >>>low. On the flip side >>> >>> >>>>>is you can get them so cheap so that may not >>>>> >>>>> >>>matter. >>> >>> >>>>>Many folks including myself installed the Optima >>>>> >>>>> >>>yellow top (deep >>> >>> >>>>>cycle) or red top (good starting battery) but it >>>>> >>>>> >>>requires some >>> >>> >>>>>modification to the battery which can be a lot of >>>>> >>>>> >>>work. Vanagon without >>> >>> >>>>>the Shrivel seats can fit the Optima on it's side >>>>> >>>>> >>>which requires >>> >>> >>>>>securing the battery so the positive terminal >>>>> >>>>> >>>does not short out to the >>> >>> >>>>>chassis. Either of the Optima battery performs >>>>> >>>>> >>>significantly better >>> >>> >>>>>than the group 41 due to the spiral wound glass >>>>> >>>>> >>>fabric construction. >>> >>> >>>>>I have a page on my site about the modification I >>>>> >>>>> >>>have to perform. >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>- Vince >>>>> >>>>>http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net >>>>>1989 Vanagon GL Camper >>>>>1993 Mazda Miata (for sale) >>>>>1996 Land Rover Discovery >>>>>2005 Mini Cooper S >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Vanagon Mailing List >>>>> >>>>> >>>[mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >>> >>> >>>>>Of William Alexander >>>>>Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 7:35 AM >>>>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>>Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Forgive me if I'm asking about a common knowledge >>>>> >>>>> >>>question - but is >>> >>> >>>>>there a preferred battery to buy for the aux >>>>> >>>>> >>>battery space under the >>> >>> >>>>>seat - I keep hearing mention that normal >>>>> >>>>> >>>batteries won't fit there? I >>> >>> >>>>>definitely plan on adding one to mine but am not >>>>> >>>>> >>>sure which battery to >>> >>> >>>>>purchase. >>>>> >>>>>A second similar question on a different subject: >>>>> >>>>>Is there a popular heater of some sort that folks >>>>> >>>>> >>>use to generate heat >>> >>> >>>>>inside the van on cold nights? some small >>>>> >>>>> >>>kerosene heater or something >>> >>> >>>>>like that? >>>>> >>>>>Thanks for the help >>>>> >>>>>William Alexander >>>>>Roanoke, VA >>>>>1987 Westy - searching for a name >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Sep 6, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Vince S wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>>Just returned back from a back to back trips, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>first into the Gorge >>> >>> >>>>>>then to Southern Oregon. When I was in the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>Eastern Gorge amoung 25 or >>> >>> >>>>>>so vehicles in the state park there were 8 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>Vanagon Westfalia. At >>> >>> >>>>>>Pistol River sailing spot there were 3 among 12 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>vehicles! The weather >>> >>> >>>>>>is cooler now making very comfortable camping in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>the Westy. Even got >>> >>> >>>>>>to use the furnace in the cool morning a bit. >>>>>> >>>>>>For a few years I had only the primary battery. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>Those were the years I >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>didn't have all the modern electronics as I do >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>now. With one battery >>> >>> >>>>>>you really have to be sure it is in good >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>condition and secondly use it >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>very sparingly and leave a lot of safety margin. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>=== message truncated === >> >> >> >> >>__________________________________ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! >>http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >> >> >>

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