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Date:   Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:48:07 -0700
Reply-To:   Vince S <gipsyflies@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:   Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:   Vince S <gipsyflies@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:   Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life?
Comments:   To: Tom Sinclair <neeemo@YAHOO.COM>
In-Reply-To:   <20040907003120.80709.qmail@web21430.mail.yahoo.com>
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We all have a different perspective on what ruining is. Cutting the top posts for me is no big deal if you can repair the connection. I careless about the warranty. I cannot remember when have I ever use the warranty on a battery. Cutting the seat swivel is a big deal for me - something I will never do unless there is no alternative.

- Vince

http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net 1989 Vanagon GL Camper 1993 Mazda Miata (for sale) 1996 Land Rover Discovery 2005 Mini Cooper S

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sinclair Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 5:31 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life?

I don't think you have to cut the posts off--in fact you could ruin the battery doing that. You have to cut notches in the seat swivel so the posts will pass through when laying the Optima on its side with the posts facing the front of the van.

Tom

--- Chris DeLong <green536@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> in order to install an optima into a westy with > swivel seats, the terminals > on top must be cut off. That is of course if you are installing it > under the front seat. > > > > Chris DeLong > Fine Tuning > 206.522.5503 > www.finetuningperformance.com > Seattle, WA USA > > > > > > >From: Vince S <gipsyflies@COMCAST.NET> > >Reply-To: Vince S <gipsyflies@COMCAST.NET> > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life? > >Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 13:40:29 -0700 > > > >Mike, > > > >I don't know if all Vanagon Westy with shivel seats > are the same though > >I will be surprised if they aren't. Looks like Sean > has a 90 Vanagon. > > > > > > > >- Vince > > > >http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net > >1989 Vanagon GL Camper > >1993 Mazda Miata (for sale) > >1996 Land Rover Discovery > >2005 Mini Cooper S > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > >Of Michael Elliott > >Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:28 PM > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life? > > > > > >What?!? Because I have shriveled seats I have to > hack and chop the > >yellowtop Optima that I just ordered??? Rats. I > thought the thing would > >fit on its side. > > > >I was /wondering/ why the pictures on Sean's site > >(http://www.vgonman.com/auxbat.htm) showed so much > room under the > >seats!! > > > >Grumble, grumble. > > > >Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott > >71 VW Type 2 / 84 Westy: A poor but proud race. > >KG6RCR > > > > > > > >Vince S wrote: > > > > >Bill, > > > > > >I assume your 87 Westy has shrivel seats. Given > that the only car size > > >battery that will fit in the aux battery > compartment is the Group 41 > > >battery just like the one under the passenger > seat. This battery is the > > > > >easiest to install it fits like a pair of glove. > I used this for years. > > > > >You can order the battery hold down bar from VW > or find one from a > > >wrecked Vanagon. > > > > > >The drawback of the group 41 battery is it is a > starting battery and > > >down work well if you draw the battery down very > low. On the flip side > > >is you can get them so cheap so that may not > matter. > > > > > >Many folks including myself installed the Optima > yellow top (deep > > >cycle) or red top (good starting battery) but it > requires some > > >modification to the battery which can be a lot of > work. Vanagon without > > > > >the Shrivel seats can fit the Optima on it's side > which requires > > >securing the battery so the positive terminal > does not short out to the > > > > >chassis. Either of the Optima battery performs > significantly better > > >than the group 41 due to the spiral wound glass > fabric construction. > > > > > >I have a page on my site about the modification I > have to perform. > > > > > > > > > > > >- Vince > > > > > >http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net > > >1989 Vanagon GL Camper > > >1993 Mazda Miata (for sale) > > >1996 Land Rover Discovery > > >2005 Mini Cooper S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > > > > >Of William Alexander > > >Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 7:35 AM > > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > >Subject: Re: Battery LEDs = Useful life? > > > > > > > > >Forgive me if I'm asking about a common knowledge > question - but is > > >there a preferred battery to buy for the aux > battery space under the > > >seat - I keep hearing mention that normal > batteries won't fit there? I > > >definitely plan on adding one to mine but am not > sure which battery to > > >purchase. > > > > > >A second similar question on a different subject: > > > > > >Is there a popular heater of some sort that folks > use to generate heat > > >inside the van on cold nights? some small > kerosene heater or something > > >like that? > > > > > >Thanks for the help > > > > > >William Alexander > > >Roanoke, VA > > >1987 Westy - searching for a name > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sep 6, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Vince S wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Mike, > > >> > > >>Just returned back from a back to back trips, > first into the Gorge > > >>then to Southern Oregon. When I was in the > Eastern Gorge amoung 25 or > > >>so vehicles in the state park there were 8 > Vanagon Westfalia. At > > >>Pistol River sailing spot there were 3 among 12 > vehicles! The weather > > >>is cooler now making very comfortable camping in > the Westy. Even got > > >>to use the furnace in the cool morning a bit. > > >> > > >>For a few years I had only the primary battery. > Those were the years I > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>didn't have all the modern electronics as I do > now. With one battery > > >>you really have to be sure it is in good > condition and secondly use it > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>very sparingly and leave a lot of safety margin. > === message truncated ===

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