Date:         Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:01:59 -0500
Reply-To:     Paul & Becky Oliver <oliver8@TDS.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Paul & Becky Oliver <oliver8@TDS.NET>
Subject:      Re: any room for one of these?
Comments: To: Markus Mumper <mumper@USA.NET>
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Magnets and better fuel economy. Everyone's heard about a "guy" who got the
50mpgs, etc. Well if most haven't figured it out by now, "I've been around
the block" with some different  ideas, checkout my friend George French's
site  http://www.oilextreme.com

George is another of the great minds I've had the pleasure of picking
(another great mind was Frank Brisko, for those of you who know who he was).

The problem with magnets, fuel and the internal combustion engine is that of
maintaining a consist, such as fuel flow at idle as apposed to cruse.

Fuel ionization requires time, most vehicles need an additional 4 to 6 feet
of fuel line or the fuel is consumed before ionization. If you fuel inject
the engine, you scramble it all again, losing the very affect you wanted.

Today computers really run the engine, it takes 300 to 500 miles to
re-educate it. Most drivers give up on a product if they don't get "GREAT"
results with the next tank of gas.

The fuel too, is a problem. Most do not fuel at the same station, even if
you do, it is never the same mix.

The best any of my customers every got was 53mpg from the 32mpg he used to
get. Most of the time he got in the low 40's and never again in the 50's.

Oh, don't waste your money on the magnets.

Paul
P.S. If you want to try for the 200 to 800 mpg that's a whole different
story. One that could cost you more then it's worth, but I've seen it and
done it. Its just not safe!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Markus Mumper" <mumper@USA.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: any room for one of these?


I'd be careful, I found this on one of their related sies, right next to a
picture of this "power adder" thing.

http://www.sigmaautomotive.com/IRD/superfuelmax.php

Markus.............

Doug in Calif <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET> wrote:

> Any ideas on how much torque or hp you can add with one of these?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alistair Bell" <albell@UVIC.CA>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 11:04 AM
> Subject: any room for one of these?
>
>
> > instead of alternator, an electrical booster
> >
> > http://www.sigmaautomotive.com/electrocharger/electrocharger.php
> >
> >
> >
> > :)
> >
> > alistair
> >
> > '82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94
> >
> > http://www.members.shaw.ca/albell/
> =