Date:         Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:33:55 -0500
Reply-To:     John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
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From:         John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Shifting Shudder Part II
Comments: To: Tim Hurlbut <timothy@SYSAD.COM>
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To fix that seal the tranny has to be pulled. Consider the miles on your
clutch, and go from there. If you have a modest amount of miles or more,
go for a complete clutch job. It's not worth haveng to do the job twice.

John Rodgers
88 GL Driver


Tim Hurlbut wrote:

>I think I have the same problem ...  I suspect the seal is bad and I have
>been living with the problem until I can get a round tuit to fix the
>problem.
>
>your advice is appreciated.
>
>Tim Hurlbut
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Rodgers [mailto:inua@CHARTER.NET]
>Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 5:10 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Shifting Shudder Part II
>
>
>Even small amounts of oil leaking from the flywheel seal is sufficient
>to cause clutch shuddering  if it gets on the flywheel /clutch disc
>interface. My seal leak was minimal, no dripping, just a wet place on
>the  housing, but it  very effectively killed the clutch.
>
>John Rodgers
>88 GL Driver
>
>Michael Rule wrote:
>
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>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Thanks again for all the diagnosis suggestions, and clutch slave cyl.
>>
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>explanations!
>
>
>>Another question occurred to me while considering the suggestions offered:
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>>
>If, as suggested by a few, the clutch is "shuddering" due to a blown "clutch
>seal" (which seems to be analogous to a Detroit Steel rear-main seal)
>leaking oil onto the clutch plate, is it a fair presumption that the engine
>would have to be leaking heavily to slop onto the clutch and cause trouble?
>
>
>>I have (apparently) have no (visible) engine oil leak, altho it appears
>>
>>
>the tranny is seeping from somewhere (visible moist buildup of fluid on
>tranny and engine... oil? tranny fluid? dunno! on the outside of the
>case)...  will sniff-test to try to identify this weekend.
>
>
>>On a standard "front of engine is front of car" setup, it's easy to imagine
>>
>>
>oil leaks blowing back onto a clutch/ tranny, esp. from a blown rear-main...
>on these rear-engine critters, it's tough for me to imagine... but then,
>I've no experience with these engines, that's why I'm on The List!
>
>
>>Cheers,
>>Mike
>>
>>
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