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Date:         Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:45:05 -0700
Reply-To:     Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Exhaust Pipe Question
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The big question for me is, is a 2.1 pipe better than a 1.9? I have a 2.1 exhaust on a 1.9 and notice a diffrence

Joe

-----Original Message----- From: George Goff <THX0001@AOL.COM> Sent: Sep 17, 2004 9:19 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Exhaust Pipe Question

In a message dated 9/17/04 10:47:49 AM, vanagon@BUSDEPOT.COM writes:

<< These Danish made pipes are direct copies of the originals and have the same fit and quality as what the dealer sells, but for much less money. >>

Stop propagating this hogwash because it is simply not true. The Dansk pipes may be copies of the OE VW pipes, but, just like Pat Boone's version of Little Richard's "Tutti Frutti", they are poor copies. The fit of the Dansk pipes is atrocious, the welds are poor and the bracket lugs hardly last long enough to justify their existence. Whoever doubts my words, just do a side by side comparison of the two. For example, compare the welding at the crotch of a 1.9L Y-pipe on a factory pipe to the poorly wrought example that Dansk has to offer. Even a dilettante can see the difference. Also, the factory pipes are made from a cast iron alloy, not some run-of-the-mill mild steel tubing, which is probably why they last so long.

I'm on my 4th van. Each one was bought used and each had at least one stripped exhaust stud tapping when I went to do exhaust work. The worst even had an exhaust stud boss broken out of the head. I have little doubt that all this carnage was caused by mechanics forcing ill-fitting aftermarket headers into place.

I've used both factory and aftermarket and the aftermarket pipes can't even smell what VW sells. Sure the VW pipes cost more. But then, you only get what you pay for.

George


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