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Date:         Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:10:13 -0500
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Converting Coleman Catalytic Heater to LP tank?
Comments: To: Jeffrey Earl <jefferrata@YAHOO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <20041013142804.32626.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com>
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I purchased a Carbon Monoxide alarm several years ago and always carried it in my Westy. Recently the alarm sounded. The Alarm was in a 5 gallon plastic bucket in my garage. It took a few minutes for me to realize what the strange noise was and then I had to wait for it to sound off again before I could find the darn thing. Point of this story is that all I had done was to back my Porsche into the garage and kill the engine in readiness to changing the oil. Enough Carbon Monoxide was produced in this two minute process to fill the 5 gallon bucket and set off the alarm. If you're going to lock yourself in a Westy with a LP heater you should have a Carbon Monoxide alarm. You should try the alarm with just the fridge working and then with both the fridge and the LP heater working and see how the alarm behaves after an 8 hour cycle.

Stan Wilder High Performance Ceramic Coatings www.engineceramics.com

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Earl Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:28 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Converting Coleman Catalytic Heater to LP tank?

Peter wrote: "There have been concerns with that unit that it gives off poisonous gasses despite being advertised as requiring little ventilation. There was/is a law suit regarding two fellows who passed away in a *tent* using a coleman catalytic heater. I'm not convinced that the vanagon has enough ventilation without cranking the windows right down so I'm returning my ProCat today."

Search the archives for a 5 Apr, 2004, post titled: "Carbon Monoxide Test Colman Cat heater", by Chris Christensen <populuxe@QWICS.COM>

Chris works for a public utility/gas company, specializes in natural gas systems, and has access to professional-grade carbon monoxide measuring devices. In p-mail correspondence with him, I was left with the definite impression that when used with adequate ventilation, the Coleman catalytic heaters are indeed safe for prolonged use, and we have done so when camping in our own Westy. We open the windows according to the instructions and, just for backup, sleep with a home-grade CO detector/alarm nearby.

Chris made NO safety guarantees to me, and I make none to anyone else; each must determine one's own degree of safety compromise when leaving the house each day. Camp smart.

Jeffrey Earl 1983 diesel Westfalia "Vanasazi" http://www.vanthology.com/

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