Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:06:13 -0500
Reply-To: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
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From: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: 101 MPH Vanagon!
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Actually --
It IS the vehicle that does the killing. Both become the instrument of
death involved. And death can occur at any speed. BUT it is the
NUT(case) behind the wheel who is responsible.
John Rodgers
88 GL Driver
Donald Baxter wrote:
>I'd say that speed in *combination* with incompetence kills. Most
>drivers aren't capable of driving 100 mph competently, therefore to
>assume that slower drivers should not be on a freeway posted at 65 or
>70 mph is more than just a bit problematic--the highways are public
>facilities. Besides, the room for error when traveling at such speeds
>becomes geometrically smaller with increased speeds and this is
>regardless of competence.
>
>I agree that the difference in speeds is more critical here than the
>speed at which you are travelling. Here in Iowa we're generally
>dealing with persons who drive as slow as 60 mph, with the prevailing
>speed around 70-75 mph. Those who insist on driving much faster than
>this, and who weave and cut drivers off for the purpose of doing so
>are displaying their incompetence by putting the safety of those who
>drive at prevailing speeds at risk. I'm sure those are drivers who
>believe they are demonstrating competence and they are making a point
>of this competence for the benefit of drivers who are clearly less so.
>
>Someone driving 85+ mph looks pretty aggressive and dangerous on a
>freeway as crowded as I-80 between Chicago and Des Moines. It doesn't
>look as dangerous between Lincoln and Scottsbluff, Nebraska. It looks
>not dangerous at all in Montana until that driver hits a deer and
>kills himself and the animal in the process.
>
>Generally, and with some exceptions, the persons I see driving high
>speeds are displaying neither reason or competence. This is a display
>of testosterone at best or overcompensating for some other quality
>lacking at worst.
>
>Donald Baxter
>85 Vanagon GL (safe top speed around 75 mph)
>96 Passat GLX (safe top speed around 110 mph)
>
>
>
>On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:01:27 +1300, Andrew Grebneff
><andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz> wrote:
>
>
>>>Why do you need to go that fast? I sure am glad you aren't driving where my
>>>family travels.
>>>
>>>
>>Repeat the following 500 times:
>>
>>SPEED DOES NOT KILL. INCOMPETENCE KILLS.
>>--
>>Andrew Grebneff
>>Dunedin
>>New Zealand
>>Fossil preparator
>><andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
>>Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>---------------------------------------------
>Donald Baxter
>316 Ridgeview Avenue
>University Heights, Iowa 52246
>http://www.mindspring.com/~onanov
>
>
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