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Date:         Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:02:01 -0400
Reply-To:     Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
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From:         Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Syncro Steve Schwenk in the NYTimes?
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I have many thoughts on this...However the chief one that comes to mind

is:

KILL THIS THREAD NOW!

On Oct 12, 2004, at 1:15 PM, Joe Adams wrote:

> Thumbing thru the NYT on Sunday, I came upon a passage where the > paper's > public editor lambasted someone named Steve Schwenk in San Francisco

> for wishing > that a reporter's kid would get his head blown off. Isn't this the > dude who > puts on the Syncro de Mayo event? How civil you Californians are. > Joe > > From Sunday's NYTimes Public Editor Article: > > ...But before I turn over the podium, I do want you to know just how

> debased > the level of discourse has become. When a reporter receives an e-mail

> message > that says, "I hope your kid gets his head blown off in a Republican > war," a > limit has been passed. > > That's what a coward named Steve Schwenk, from San Francisco, wrote to > national political correspondent Adam Nagourney several days ago > because Nagourney > wrote something Schwenk considered (if such a person is capable of > consideration) pro-Bush. Some women reporters regularly receive sexual

> insults and > threats. As nasty as critics on the right can get (plenty nasty), the

> left seems to > be winning the vileness derby this year. Maybe the bloggers who > encourage > their readers to send this sort of thing to The Times might want to > ask them > instead to say it in public. I don't think they'd dare. > > Here's the whole article.... > > October 10, 2004 > THE PUBLIC EDITOR > > How Would Jackson Pollock Cover This Campaign? > By DANIEL OKRENT > > > SEPTEMBER 26, re "Kerry as the Boss: Always More Questions": Faith C. > McCready thinks "the Kerry campaign ought to be paying The Times a > consultant/advertising fee" for the article. Scott Libbey of Chevy > Chase, Md., calls it "another > negative article on Kerry," and concludes: "I don't know how you guys

> can > look at yourselves in the mirror anymore. I really don't." > > October 5, regarding a few stories: From Michael Malone of Darien,

> Conn., "I > know that many of the Times reporters and editors are breathlessly > trying to > get Kerry elected." And from John Owens of San Francisco, "I often > won't read > your paper because of the relentless pounding on Kerry." > > Al Markel of San Francisco asks why The Times hasn't reviewed the > anti-Kerry > "Unfit for Command" while Samuel Leff of Manhattan wonders why Justin

> Frank's > critical psychoanalytic study, "Bush on the Couch," has been ignored

> by the > Book Review editors. Francis Moynihan of Avon, Conn., congratulates > The Times's > Web site for "finally, a headline critical of Kerry" that uses the word > "pander"; John Owens objects, saying that "a comparable headline about

> Bush would > read ' ... according to the poll Americans find Bush to be a liar and

> an idiot.' > " I'm tempted to refer all these correspondents, and the many hundreds

> of > others they represent, to my colleague Mike Needs, ombudsman of The > Akron Beacon > Journal. "On Monday and Tuesday," Mike wrote in an e-mail last week,

> "my calls > were all from conservatives saying the paper leaned left." > > "On Wednesday, Thursday and Friday," he continued, "my calls were all

> from > liberals saying the paper leaned right. But I did have one caller who

> said we > were getting the balance just right. I discounted that one." > > A definition of irony: what an ombudsman or public editor must > appreciate to > survive this campaign. > > I've been reading The Times's campaign coverage like any other > interested > (and, by now, exhausted) citizen for months, but with special care, a

> pair of > scissors, two marking pens and three other papers to use for > comparison since > Labor Day. Along the way, my own research has been richly amplified by

> reader > mail, the buzzing of the blogs and the occasional complaint registered

> by party > officials. Two readers generously provided me exhaustive analyses of

> the > photographs of each candidate published in The Times (and came to > opposite > conclusions). > > I will stipulate here that I'll be voting for John Kerry next month

> and will > further admit that I have bent over backward to listen to pro-Bush > complaints, in a conscious effort to counterbalance my own prejudices.

> I don't buy the > argument a couple of Times editors have made, that because charges of

> bias come > from both liberals and conservatives, the paper must therefore be doing > things right. This makes as much sense as saying that a man with one

> foot on a > block of ice and the other on a bed of hot coals must feel just fine. > > In fact, I can find many things to criticize in The Times's election > coverage. I'm as interested in the inside baseball of campaigns as the

> next politics > nerd, but the paper's obsessive attention to backroom maneuvers and > spin-room > speculation obscures, rather than enhances, my understanding of the > candidates. Much seems directed not at readers but at the campaign > staffs and other > journalists. The chronic overreliance on anonymous comments from > self-serving > partisans in news stories is equally maddening. (I prefer the pieces

> tagged "News > Analysis" or "Political Memo," where at least we can hear the sound of

> the > writer's own voice, and take into account the writer's apparent > views.) And why > the paper would ask a reporter to provide "real-time analysis" online

> during > the debates is beyond me. The very phrase is an oxymoron; analysis > requires > reflection. > > But there are plenty of press critics in print and on the Web, so > I'll cede > the general criticism to them. Here's the question for a public > editor: Is The > Times systematically biased toward either candidate? > > No. > > So farewell, legions of the left and armies of the right - all of you

> who > have been faithful supporters when I've endorsed your various > positions in past > columns, but who will believe I have either lost my mind or sacrificed

> my > credibility. I'm grateful for your close attention and your > stimulating company, > and I admire your passionate commitment. > > But passion is a distorting lens that makes it hard to perceive the > shape of > things. Partisans will see the depredations committed against their > man, but > won't notice similar articles or headlines or photographs that may > damage the > other guy. Readers outraged by the Sept. 26 piece on Kerry's > decision-making > style ask when The Times will do a similar piece on Bush apparently > because they > didn't notice the one that ran Aug. 29 ("Bush Takes On Direct Role in

> Shaping > Election Tactics"). > > A Bush-hater will see a front-page picture of the confident president > greeting enthusiastic crowds and shout "Bias!" much more quickly than

> he will > remember the nearly identical photo of Kerry that ran the day before.

> Republicans > who object to the play given a recent story about scientists > campaigning against > the president are unaware of the Democrats' cries of bias after The > Times > failed in June to report on an anti-Bush statement signed by 27 retired > diplomats. > > If there's a commissariat at The Times ordering up coverage to help

> or hurt > a specific candidate, it's doing a lousy job; close reading shows > bruises > administered to each (and free passes handed out) in a pattern adapted

> from > Jackson Pollock. Many people want to know why the other guy's position

> is in the > first paragraph of a story, and their side doesn't weigh in until the

> sixth; they > don't notice when it's the other way around. Sherrie Sutton of > Manhattan, who > describes herself as "the only possible Bush vote on the Upper West > Side," > asked why Times headlines consistently use "attack" when Republicans

> criticize > Democrats, but not when Democrats criticize Republicans. Intrigued, my > associate, Arthur Bovino, determined that in the past year, headlined

> Republicans > attacked Democrats 12 times and Democrats attacked Republicans 22 > times. Ms. > Sutton replied: "Statistics don't lie, and you've got 'em. > Interesting, that in the > face of facts, I could still feel unsatisfied that campaign coverage

> by the > NYTimes is balanced." > > Interesting, and honest, and for most of us, inevitable as well. > Conservatives thought Cheney won the vice-presidential debate; > liberals thought Edwards > did. I can look at pictures of my children and see that they are > flawless; you > will see them differently (even though they are, of course, flawless).

> Write a > book, get a lousy review - it's happened to me several times - and you > challenge the reviewer's judgment, not your own. We see, and we are > more vulnerable > to, those things that matter most to us. > > Unquestionably, individual articles, headlines or photographs do cast

> one or > another candidate in a colored light, either rosy or dark. Headlines

> are > especially toxic because of their reductive nature. Eric Kessin of > Scarsdale, N.Y., > wrote to say that the Friday, Sept. 2, headline "Jobless Figures Could > Emphasize Bush's Big Weakness" might as easily have read "Jobless > Figures Could > Emphasize Bush's Claim of Economic Growth." He was right and, in fact,

> the > Saturday story was headlined "Job Figures Help President Promote > Economic Record" > > That was accurate, but it, too, was not without its own coloration. > Nothing > is, especially when removed from the context of the long slog of the

> campaign > and The Times's extended coverage. If The Times fails to give > prominent space > to a candidate's speech because it's a repeat of yesterday's, the > paper is > helping the opposition; if it does cover it, it's promoting the > interests of the > repetitive candidate. Show me an interesting photograph, and I'll show

> you an > opinion. (I can't wait to hear what readers think of the Kerry > portrait today > on the cover The New York Times Magazine, much less the article > itself.) (Check > that: Yes, I can.) > > Those readers who long for the days of absolutely untinted, > nothing-but-the-facts newspapering ought to have an Associated Press

> ticker installed on the > breakfast table. Newspapers today and especially this newspaper are > asking > their reporters and editors to go deep into a story, and when and > where you go > deep is itself a matter of judgment. And every judgment, it appears,

> offends > someone. > > It is axiomatic that the facts or characterizations a journalist > chooses to > include can tilt a reader's impression. So can the choice of articles,

> the > prominence they're given, the immense weight of the entire, cumulative

> chronicle > of a too-long campaign. > > But it is equally axiomatic that the reader who has already tilted > toward a > particular candidate or position will instinctively view the world and

> The > Times - from his or her own personal angle. > > This piece turned out to be more of a rant than I intended, but given

> the > vicious nature of some of the attacks levied against certain > reporters, I wasn't > inclined to be temperate. There are many critics of The Times's > election > coverage who are measured and reasonable, and their views - very > different from my > own - will be represented in this space next week. I also don't wish to > discourage readers who in good faith find errors, misrepresentations

> or unfair > characterizations. They may occur randomly, but their frequency is > disappointing, > and I'll continue to forward meritorious complaints to the appropriate

> editors > and reporters. Many will find expression in the corrections column, or

> in this > one. > > But before I turn over the podium, I do want you to know just how > debased the > level of discourse has become. When a reporter receives an e-mail > message > that says, "I hope your kid gets his head blown off in a Republican > war," a limit > has been passed. > > That's what a coward named Steve Schwenk, from San Francisco, wrote to > national political correspondent Adam Nagourney several days ago > because Nagourney > wrote something Schwenk considered (if such a person is capable of > consideration) pro-Bush. Some women reporters regularly receive sexual

> insults and > threats. As nasty as critics on the right can get (plenty nasty), the

> left seems to > be winning the vileness derby this year. Maybe the bloggers who > encourage > their readers to send this sort of thing to The Times might want to > ask them > instead to say it in public. I don't think they'd dare. > > The public editor serves as the readers' representative. His opinions

> and > conclusions are his own. His column appears at least twice monthly in

> this > section. > > Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company | Home | Privacy Policy | > Search > | Corrections | RSS | Help | Back to Top


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